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From: "Lorine McGinnis Schulze" <>
Subject: Re: [TSL] Eastern Branch=Philadelphia in 1753
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:26:43 -0400
In-Reply-To: <004201c55c00$d0837a40$9c89ed18@suer>


"Pennsylvania German Pioneers by Ralph B. Strassburger and
William J. Hinke", published in 1934 by the Pennsylvania
German Society, Norristown, PA gives all available lists
for
each ship - the Captain's list, the list of signers of the
Oaths of Allegiance and a third list which is supposedly a
duplicate of the signers of the Oath but really isn't. It
is
signatures of those who signed a *different* oath.


To quote from the Strassburger book

"The order relating to the duty of the captains had three
points. First, they were to make a list of all the people
they imported. <snipped> .... Not even the first point,
that
they should hand in lists of the names of the people they
imported, was interpreted alike by all the captains. Most
of
them thought that to give the names of the male adults was
all that was required. Only twenty-five captains

have given complete lists of all the men, women and
children. Three captains have given the names of the men
and
women, but omitted the children, while sixty-four captains
atoned somewhat for their remissness in carrying out the
orders by giving the ages of the passengers, an item that
they had not been asked to give, but which we are

glad to insert, wherever they are found. Sometimes the
captains give the total number of freights, children being
counted as "half freights." In two instances (Nos. 1-2) the


totals in each family are given. Looking at the captains'
lists as a whole, we must say, that they are of all sorts
and descriptions. Each one made his list to suit himself,
without any reference to the orders of the Council. "

For other info see LIST OF SHIPS TO PHILADELPHIA
PENNSYLVANIA 1727-1808

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/palship_list.shtml



On 18 May 2005 at 15:25, Sue Renkert wrote:

> Wow! That was a quick reply!
>
> I assume the person listed as Job. David Fuss is my Johann
> David Fees. It says this name came from the original German
> signature - he must have had bad handwriting! :-)
>
> Does anyone know whether the actual manuscript is available,
> either online, on microfilm, or elsewhere? I have a note
> that he came with a wife and children, and I would like to
> see if there is any additional information. Is there any
> possibility that a manifest would give the original port of
> departure, or would it just say Rotterdam?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Murray Jones" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [TSL] Eastern Branch=Philadelphia in 1753
>
>
> > --- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sue Renkert" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 2:52 PM
> > Subject: [TSL] Eastern Branch=Philadelphia in 1753
> >
> > > OCT 3, 1753 - SHIP EASTERN BRANCH - Philadelphia
> > > Johan David Fees with wife and children, possibly from
> > > Germany
> >
> >
> > Hi Sue
> >
> > Does this help?
> >
> > http://www.ancestor-search.com/passengerlists/easternbranc
> > h1753.html
> >
> > Unfortunaely no FEES. Maybe their names weren't readable.
> >
> > Murray Jones
> > Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
>
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-- Lorine McGinnis Schulze

* Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists)
http://olivetreegenealogy.com/
* Naturalization Records
http://naturalizationrecords.com/
* Images of Ships Lists
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/

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