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From: jacknday <>
Subject: Re: [TSL] THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 206
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 13:22:46 -0800 (PST)


I do appreciate your kind searching for "my ship". I'm not quite sure if you are saying that
the name was "Blanche and Plantagenet" or if they were two different ones. I wouldn't think that whoever recorded the arrival at New Orleans abbreviated the name. Yes, I was aware
that other ships had the Plantagenet name. Probably around twenty years ago I remember
coming across a site showing pictures and statistics (size, sail or whatever, etc) and
finding one that did not fit the description----many years ago and two computers ago and
a newby at genealogy--- so I don't know how I determined that the one pictured was not the
one I needed. So many of my paper records were destroyed or damaged by Hurricane
Katrina or are boxed up by different times I decided to search.
 
The heading lines on the records I was sent are as follows:
LIST OF PASSENGERS ARRIVED FROM FOREIGN PORTS
In the Port of New-Orleans during the    (blank)    Quarter, 185 (blank)
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Date/Vessel's Name/Master's Name/Where From/ Passsenger's Name/Age/Sex/ Occupation/ Country to which they belong/ Country to which they intend to inhabit
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First line answers:
January 10/Plantagenet/Price/Liverpool/(fancy initial?/McArthur/ 12/ M /Labourer/ (a 12 year old?)/ Ireland/ USA
Second line lista only initial "P" (I think) McArthur indicated by a swooping mark that  I
believe is "ditto"/  age 4. This would be the youngest child Peter who died that late summer from yellow fever.
A long line of names and ages follow with no other information given.
On the second page the 22nd name down is A McArthur age 12 which could be Agnes
or Andrew neither of which was 12.both of those children also died that summer with yellow fever.
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There is no indication of page numbers that should include the parents and three other
children.
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I see now that I must learn to interpret such old files, for instance translating the old,
fancy script. Since the library in New Orleans states that the records have been destroyed by the hurricane is there any other place that a copy of this arrival can be found? 
 
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From: <>
Subject: THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 206
To:
Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 2:01 AM




Today's Topics:

   1. Re: McARTHUR, Andrew & Agnes/ Ship Plantagenet (Marj Kohli)


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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:31:28 -0500
From: Marj Kohli <>
Subject: Re: [TSL] McARTHUR, Andrew & Agnes/ Ship Plantagenet
To: jacknday <>,
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Mary

It is unlikely the family sailed from Ireland if the ship sailed from
Liverpool. The family most likely took a ferry to Liverpool and then
boarded the ship. This was very common.

I checked sailings from Liverpool around this date and did not find
this ship. There are several vessels by this name and they were
sailing to Australia and Canada. The one you are talking about does
not appear in the London Times. The NY Times of Mar 8, 1853 reports a
vessel by that name being passed by the steamship Wm. Penn, which was
arriving from New-Orleans so we know there was a ship by that name in the area.

So...I did some more checking and in the column "America" in the
London Times on Thursday, Jan 27, 1853 I found:

Arrived at New Orleans,--The Blanche and Plantaganet[sic], from
Liverpool; Stephen Glover, from Newport, Wales.

As to passenger lists -- I am sorry I cannot help.

Regards..

Marj



At 09:01 PM 11/21/2010, jacknday wrote:
>Mr GGgrandparents and six children left County Louth, Ireland around
>the 1st of November 1852 on the Plantagenet and arrived in New
>Orleans, Louisiana January 10, 1853. The ship's master was "Price".
>I got that much information from the New Orleans Public Library
>many years ago but their copy of two pages only showed three
>children. In the past few
>years I wrote to the library wanting a better copy (complete) of
>passengers and was told
>that that those records had been moved somewhere else and were
>ruined by Hurricane
>Katrina. The ship was listed from Liverpool. Is it likely that they
>boarded the ship at Belfast, where seven years before they had
>landed when they left Scotland, or did they
>have to cross back over and leave from Liverpool?
>
>Mary McArthur Lander
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