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From: "Mike Borrill" <>
Subject: Re: [UK-CENSUS] Employment transposition!
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:12:59 +0100
References: <000c01c56194$51a5ed90$8200a8c0@Barb> <0ee501c561ab$cb1e7540$8e924154@user8aefylt54k> <002701c561b5$e39a9220$817ba8c0@Sauron> <000701c561dc$814c7c60$dbc8fea9@default> <006d01c5640f$92811fb0$0301010a@NICHOLAS> <005001c56428$630be300$cb5b9751@borrill> <000a01c56434$a2a92c00$0301010a@NICHOLAS>


Yes, I know. How things have changed.

I recently got into trouble for calling a lady chairperson, chairman!
Should call her, chair!

But will not go on before I get into more trouble.

All the best

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "J.M. de Montalk" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [UK-CENSUS] Employment transposition!


> OK thanks Mike. It's just that I've never heard of a female butler,
> particularly in 1890!!
>
> Jeanette
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Borrill" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 8:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [UK-CENSUS] Employment transposition!
>
>
>> Hello Jeanette
>>
>> Yes, it is almost certainly that the enumerator has written on the wrong
>> line but as we have said many times we are wrong to "assume". There are
>> times when although there appears to be a mistake it is correct.
>>
>> In this case please transcribe "as is" and flag each line and in the
>> notes for head something like" butler enumerated on wife record."
>>
>> Mike Borrill
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "J.M. de Montalk" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 6:30 AM
>> Subject: [UK-CENSUS] Employment transposition!
>>
>>
>>> On the piece I'm transcribing (1890) I have a male Phipps, head of
>>> household etc, shown with a blank in the occupation column.The next
>>> entry is for his wife Elizabeth, and she is shown with the occupation of
>>> "Butler". Would it be acceptable to move the occupation to match with
>>> her husband's entry?
>>>
>>> Jeanette.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bill McKinlay" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CENSUS] Impossible to read!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Diane,
>>>>
>>>> Sooner or later we all get the very good and the very difficult
>>>> pieces to deal with. If you are using spreadsheets for input, the
>>>> techniques I use are:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Start on the next ED then set aside a little time in each
>>>> transcribing session to work on one or two of the difficult
>>>> schedules. (Just insert the required number of lines) This saves
>>>> the sanity as well as the eyesight - at least you feel happier
>>>> that you are still making progress.
>>>> 2. Schedule numbers, even if they are difficult to read at least
>>>> are identifiable by the line they are on and you get an
>>>> indication of what you are probably looking at by the last
>>>> readable one.
>>>> 3. Fill in the gender first. Even if the numbers are unreadable,
>>>> you can usually tell which column they were written in. Knowing
>>>> too whether the person is a male or female is a big help to
>>>> determine if the forename is a Jane or a James.
>>>> 4. Fill out as much of the rest that you can readily make out
>>>> next. The family structure starts to become apparent - Head,
>>>> wife, children... is it Scholar on the occupation column of a
>>>> child for instance? Is what you can make out consistant with what
>>>> you are likely to find?
>>>> 5. Try and sort out the dittos in the surname column so you are
>>>> not spending time on those and focusing on the first entry. Put
>>>> in what you can make out of that, it may not be perfect but it
>>>> may be close enough for it to be picked up by a phonetic search
>>>> and is a big help to those who follow.
>>>> 6. Use hyphens or other defaults as required for the totally
>>>> illegible entries and flag the whole lot as uncertain.
>>>> 7. Send a sympathy card to the checker and validator.
>>>>
>>>> On one occasion it took me a month to do 14 pages but I got a
>>>> heck of a lot more done over the same period as well.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck.
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Diane" <>
>>>> To: <>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [UK-CENSUS] Impossible to read!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> | I have a whole bunch of pages that are so faded that I can't
>>>> make out most of it. Does anyone have any suggestions or hints
>>>> that may help? Most of the given names you can figure out
>>>> eventually, but surnames are another story.
>>>> |
>>>> | And if there is nothing I can do... what do I enter?
>>>> |
>>>> | Diane (going blind in BC)
>>>> |
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