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From: "Rob Thompson" <>
Subject: GENUKI Family History News 56
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:01:40 +0100


GENUKI Family History News
No 56

17th June 2001

Hello everyone and welcome to this 56th GENUKI Family History News.

In the last issue I reviewed the PRO’s Census index on line. In the
interests of fairness I feel it is necessary to reproduce this answer I
received in full from Gill Blanchard:

Dear Rob,

I feel I have to respond to your review of the 1891 Norfolk census pilot.
Whilst I agree it is a fantastic facility, there are some major problems you
haven't mentioned. First, is the fact it will be only available until the
end of July with no guarantees of it ever appearing again. If we want it to
continue we must keep lobbying the PRO.Secondly, re payment to view, this
involves a minimum payment of £5. whilst I don't have a problem with this,
the credit has to be used within 24 hours. This is not always possible, as
you may only want to look up one person at that time, meaning you pay £5 to
see one entry. Possibly the most important problem is the fact the free
index does not include folio and piece numbers. Whilst people outside
Norfolk would probably pay to view the return anyway, and it is also not a
problem when searching the census returns for a small parish. It is however,
a major problem for large places such as Norwich (over 30 parishes),
Yarmouth etc.For those of us who live in Norfolk or want to look up the
returns at the FRC it means we must pay to view to get the necessary
information to do so. This means it is not free. I also have to say that I
have tried it out fairly extensively and have come across several entries on
the free index which do not include the name of the parish of residence, so
again it is necessary to pay to view to get this information. Lastly, the
payment facilities are not on a secure system.

In response I can only say I did think the facility was superb, and I stand
by my comments, whilst appreciating all of Gill’s. I think in essence the
argument boils down to the fact that unfortunately local people and those
with easy access to the FRC have been dealt a bad hand with this, whilst
those researching from further afield have been given better access than
otherwise possible. I would however be interested to hear other comments on
this system, positive or otherwise.

A couple of weeks ago someone asked me how to find which day of the week a
particular date was. There is a piece of software which is easy to use that
can make these sort of calculations for you. It is called The British Date
Calculator and is provided by Drake Software. It should be available in most
large genealogical suppliers. You can find out more about this software at :
http://www.tdrake.demon.co.uk/datecal2.htm

New Books & CD’s

Family History on the Web: An Internet Directory for England and Wales, by
Stuart A Raymond I am never 100% sure of books which list internet
resources – the nature of the internet is that there are constant changes
and there are good links websites on line (both GENUKI and Cyndis List
(www.cyndislist.com) but it is hard to be scathing about a book which is
obviously well researched. It is an easily browsable book that will help
beginners navigate the wide world of the web and contains exhaustive lists
of useful sites for UK researchers. Therefore I would recommend the book as
a ‘computerside companion’ where you might just find a useful lead. I
believe there are plans to update the book each year, if this is not done it
will soon become old information. This title costs 4.95 UKP and will be
available from most genealogy suppliers/bookstalls. You can find out further
information on this and the previous title from the publisher at
www.familyhistorybooks.co.uk

I have mentioned the Gloucestershire 1851 census index on CD in a previous
newsletter, it being a great resource for family historians with
Gloucestershire Roots. I have recently been given contact details to
purchase this, and here they are: Obtainable from me: Dr. H. A. Kearsey,
Windmill Place, Windmill Road, Minchinhampton, STROUD, GL6 9EE at £21.50
including post and packing. Purchase can also be made using credit card.

Webpage reviews
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm
A website with information about the isle of Islay in Scotland, its history
and it's families. It's a bit of a mish-mash of a site, with many of the
navigations not working and leading to page errors, but the site contains a
good deal of records that are worth persevering for, including census,
cemetery and parish registers. These have been transcribed in a variety of
ways and some of them take a little while to download. I have my problems
with this site, mainly in the design and navigation of it, but the content
is very good

www.virtualbrum.co.uk which I reviewed many months ago, has now been vastly
updated with over 1100 photographs of Birmingham and a new Genealogy Forum

http://www.mcpitz.com/
A site dedicated to Scottish Mining, with information on mines, areas,
housing, conditions, disasters and lots more besides. This is a nicely
designed site, although unfortunately using frames which detracts from the
nice look of the site. The information on many of the pages is sketchy, but
often extremely useful and very interesting, especially if your ancestors
were miners in Scotland. I suspect you might also find this site interesting
if your ancestors were miners in England or Wales. There is limited
genealogical content, although there is a page of submitted interests which
is worth a browse. Overall an interesting site that could do with a little
development but otherwise good

New on Genfair
New items on stands at GENfair recently include the following:
West Surrey FHS have published a number of new books and microfiches:
Early Woking Buildings with particulars of their occupants taken from
1841-91 Censuses and the Parish Registers;
Surrey 1891 Census Index - Dorking (part), Coldharbour, Holmwood and
Wescott;
Two sets of MI fiches for Croydon;
Two sets of fiches in the Surrey Early Wills series (1680-1695);
Parish Register fiches for Barnes, Bramley, Burstow and Kingston;
Indexes to old Ordnance Survey maps of London (Godfrey Edition)

Essex SFH have added a large number of new items to those available at their
GENfair stand:
Microfiches of Essex Monumental Inscriptions:
Eastwood
Harlow
Inworth
Leigh-on-Sea
Belchamp
Otten St Lawrence
Southend
Brightlingsea
Great Braxted
Moulsham
Great Leighs

1861 Census indexes on fiche and 3.5 inch floppy discs:
Braintree
Epping
Leyton and Walthamstow
Ongar
Saffron Walden
Harlow (fiche only)


Upcoming Events
The Hillingdon FHS is holding its family history fair on Sunday 1st July
2001 at The Great Barn, Bury Street, Ruislip, Middlesex 10 a.m to 4 p.m.
Admission £1.50 adults, children free. Refreshments available and free
parking. Many Family History Society and Traders attending. Further details
contact Gill May on

You can find a listing of upcoming events, and links to respective websites
on the GENEVA site (part of GENUKI) at
:http://users.ox.ac.uk/~malcolm/genuki/geneva/

New on GENUKI
Recent Changes to the GENUKI site include:
Wiltshire Links/Pages added/amended: All parishes with names starting with
D, E and F, with a map of the area for each parish.

Clackmannanshire
Links/pages added/amended: Clackmannanshire Council; [Alloa] Phil Culhane's
Alloa.

County Clare
Links/pages added/amended: Map Showing the Location of the County;
Biographical Notices; 1901 County Clare; Civil Parishes; Look Up Service;
IreAtlas Townland Database Search Page; On-line Irish Names Research
Directory, County Clare, A-M; On-Line Irish Names Research Directory, County
Clare, N-Z; IrelandGenWeb - County Clare Genealogical Resources; Origins of
Heraldry.

Cumberland
Links/pages added/amended: Cumbria Archive Service; Parish Descriptions and
Photographs; Cumberland Look Up Exchange; Culgaith; [Culgaith] Indexes to
trade directories; [Culgaith] Description from 1847 Directory.

Buckinghamshire
Links/pages added/amended: Index to Pigot's Trade Directory, 1830; Ashendon
Hundred - 1847 map; Buckingham Hundred - 1847 map; Cottesloe Hundred - 1847
map; Desborough Hundred - 1847 map; Stoke Hundred - 1847 map; War Memorial,
Latimer; War Memorial, Market Square, Aylesbury; The Magistracy of
Buckinghamshire in 1861; Index of the Poll for Knights - 1784; [Amersham]
Burgesses in Parliament for Amersham; [Beachampton] Descriptions and Travel;
[Colnbrook] Chapel Wardens of Colnbrook; [Great Marlow] Representatives in
Parliament for Great Marlow; [High Wycombe] Representatives in Parliament
for High Wycombe; [Horton] Churchwardens of the Parish Church of St Michael;
New Bradwell; [New Bradwell] Vicars of Stantonbury; Quainton; [Quainton]
Rectors of the Parish Church of St Mary & Holy Cross; Quarrendon; Radclive;
[Radclive] Chaplains of the Chantry Chapel; [Radclive] Rectors of the Parish
Church of St John the Evangelist; Radnage; [Radnage] Knights Templars of
Radnage; [Radnage] Rectors of the Parish Church of St Mary; Ravenstone;
[Ravenstone] Priors of Ravenstone Priory; [Ravenstone] Rectors & Vicars of
the Parish Church of All Saints; Saunderton; [Saunderton] Rectors of
Saunderton; Shabbington; [Shabbington] Vicars of the Parish Church of St
Mary Magdalene; Shalstone; [Shalstone] Rectors of the Parish Church of St
Edward the Confessor & King; Shenley; [Shenley] Rectors of the Parish Church
of St Mary; Sherington; [Sherington] Rectors of the Parish Church of St
Laud; Simpson; [Simpson] Rectors of the Parish Church of St Thomas the
Apostle; Slapton; [Slapton] Rectors of the Parish Church of St Botolph;
Slough; Soulbury; [Soulbury] Rectors, Vicars and Curates of the Parish
Church of All Saints; Steeple Claydon; [Steeple Claydon] Vicars of the
Parish Church of St Michael & All Angels; Stewkley; [Stewkley] Rectors and
Vicars of the Parish Church of St Michael & All Angels; Stoke Goldington;
[Stoke Goldington] Rectors of the Parish Church of St Peter; Stoke Hammond;
[Stoke Hammond] Rectors of the Parish Church of St Luke; Stoke Mandeville;
Stoke Poges; [Stoke Poges] Vicars of the Parish Church of St Giles; Stone;
[Stone] Vicars of the Parish Church of St John the Baptist; Stony Stratford;
[Stony Stratford] Curates of Stony Stratford; Stowe; [Stowe] Vicars of
Stowe; Swanbourne; [Swanbourne] Vicars of the Parish Church of St Swithin;
Taplow; [Taplow] Rectors of Taplow; Tattenhoe; [Tattenhoe] Ministers of the
Parish Church of St Giles; Thornborough; [Thornborough] Vicars of the Parish
Church of St Mary the Virgin; Thornton; [Thornton] Priests of Thornton
Oratory; [Thornton] Rectors of the Parish Church of St Michael & All Angels;
Tingewick; [Tingewick] Rectors & Curates of the Parish Church of St Mary
Magdalen; Towersey; [Towersey] Chaplains or Curates of the Parish Church of
St Catherine; Turville; [Turville] Vicars of the Parish Church of St Mary;
Turweston; [Turweston] Rectors of the Parish Church of St Mary; Twyford;
[Twyford] Rectors & Curates of the Parish Church of Assumption of the
Blessed Virgin Mary; Tyringham; [Tyringham] Rectors of the Parish Church of
St Peter; Upper Winchendon; [Upper Winchendon] Churchwardens of the Parish
Church of St Mary Magdalen; [Upper Winchendon] Vicars of the Parish Church
of St Mary Magdalen; Upton-cum-Chalvey; [Upton-cum-Chalvey] Vicars of
Upton-cum-Chalvey; Waddesdon; [Waddesdon] Churchwardens of the Parish of
Waddeson; [Waddesdon] Clerks of the Parish of Waddesdon; [Waddesdon] Rectors
of Waddesdon; Walton; [Walton] Rectors of Walton; Water Stratford; [Water
Stratford] Rectors of the Parish Church of St Giles; Wavendon; [Wavendon]
Rectors of the Parish Church of St Mary the Virgin; Wendover; [Wendover]
Burgesses in Parliament for Wendover; [Wendover] Vicars of the Parish Church
of St Mary the Virgin; [Willen] Vicars of the Parish Church of St Mary
Magdalen; [Wing] Vicars of the Parish Church of All Saints; [Wingrave]
Rectors & Vicars of the Parish Church of St Peter & St Paul; [Winslow]
Vicars of the Parish Church of St Laurence; [Wolverton] Vicars of Wolverton;
[Wooburn] Rectors & Vicars of the Parish Church of St Paul; [Worminghall]
Vicars of the Parish Church of St Peter & St Paul; [Wotton Underwood]
Curates of the Parish Church of All Saints; [Woughton on the Green] Rectors
of the Parish Church of Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary; [Wraysbury]
Churchwardens of the Parish Church of St Andrew; [Wraysbury] Rectors &
Vicars of the Parish Church of St Andrew; ; Links removed: Ashendon
Hundred - 1847 map; Buckingham Hundred - 1847 map; Cottesloe Hundred - 1847
map; Desborough Hundred - 1847 map; Stoke Hundred - 1847 map; New Bradwell;
Vicars of Stantonbury; Quainton; Rectors of the Parish Church of St Mary &
Holy Cross; Quarrendon; Radclive; Chaplains of the Chantry Chapel; Rectors
of the Parish Church of St John the Evangelist; Radnage; Knights Templars of
Radnage; Rectors of the Parish Church of St Mary; Ravenstone; Priors of
Ravenstone Priory; Rectors & Vicars of the Parish Church of All Saints;
Saunderton; Rectors of Saunderton; Shabbington; Vicars of the Parish Church
of St Mary Magdalene; Shalstone; Rectors of the Parish Church of St Edward
the Confessor & King; Shenley; Rectors of the Parish Church of St Mary;
Sherington; Rectors of the Parish Church of St Laud; Simpson; Rectors of the
Parish Church of St Thomas the Apostle; Slapton; Rectors of the Parish
Church of St Botolph; Slough; Soulbury; Rectors, Vicars and Curates of the
Parish Church of All Saints; Steeple Claydon; Vicars of the Parish Church of
St Michael & All Angels; Stewkley; Rectors and Vicars of the Parish Church
of St Michael & All Angels; Stoke Goldington; Rectors of the Parish Church
of St Peter; Stoke Hammond; Rectors of the Parish Church of St Luke; Stoke
Mandeville; Stoke Poges; Vicars of the Parish Church of St Giles; Stone;
Vicars of the Parish Church of St John the Baptist; Stony Stratford; Curates
of Stony Stratford; Stowe; Vicars of Stowe; Swanbourne; Vicars of the Parish
Church of St Swithin; Taplow; Rectors of Taplow; Tattenhoe; Ministers of the
Parish Church of St Giles; Thornborough; Vicars of the Parish Church of St
Mary the Virgin; Thornton; Priests of Thornton Oratory; Rectors of the
Parish Church of St Michael & All Angels; Tingewick; Rectors & Curates of
the Parish Church of St Mary Magdalen; Towersey; Chaplains or Curates of the
Parish Church of St Catherine; Turville; Vicars of the Parish Church of St
Mary; Turweston; Rectors of the Parish Church of St Mary; Twyford; Rectors &
Curates of the Parish Church of Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary;
Tyringham; Rectors of the Parish Church of St Peter; Upper Winchendon;
Vicars of the Parish Church of St Mary Magdalen; Upton-cum-Chalvey; Vicars
of Upton-cum-Chalvey; Waddesdon; Rectors of Waddesdon; Walton; Rectors of
Walton; Water Stratford; Rectors of the Parish Church of St Giles; Wavendon;
Rectors of the Parish Church of St Mary the Virgin; Wendover; Vicars of the
Parish Church of St Mary the Virgin.

Don’t forget you can access the county pages through GENUKI’s Home Page

GENUKI's Home Page - http://www.genuki.org.uk/
GENUKI's Listings of: Family history Societies -
http://www.genuki.org.uk/Societies/ Genealogy Mailing Lists -
http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html Surname Lists -
http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/SurnamesLists.html
GENUKI's Frequently Asked Questions File -
http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/genuki/faq.html

And finally…
Well that’s all for another week, hope there was something in this weeks
issue for you. Keep you news and views coming in, particularly news of new
website and upcoming events, all over the world, with a UK bias

Have A Good Week

Rob

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