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From: "Rob Thompson" <>
Subject: GENUKI Family History News 58
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 21:31:07 +0100


GENUKI Family History News
No 58

1 July 2001

Hi Everyone and welcome to this 58th issue of GENUKI Family History News

Carrying on the debate with regard to the 1891 census project I received the
following email from Colin Mills this week detailing some problems with the
search mechanism with regard to searching occupations. This is a serious
issue, as many of us will want to search this, but perhaps not so easily
picked up first use! I have edited the email a little but the important bits
are all there

I was contacted by Stan Cook, coordinator of the Gunmakers index, because of
my interest in the Index of One-Place Studies, regarding the 1891 Pilot
Project for Norfolk at <census.pro.gov.uk>.As you will see it is designed
for those searching for individuals. In a personal search the last name is
mandatory, and although it is possible to use wildcards, two letters must be
supplied before the wildcard ("*") so to find all persons having a given
occupation, not only must you give all variants of the occupation, this must
be multiplied by 26 squared (676) to be sure of finding all those with the
given occupation.

Contrary to the impression given by the Help Desk, searching by occupation
is not just an academic exercise restricted to economists, historical
geographers or statisticians. Many local historians and family historians
are interested in searches by occupation or by place. People like Stan Cook
would use the census to compile specialist indexes listing people having
particular occupations. I myself am particularly interested in several
parishes in Devon, Oxon and Bucks.

I would like everyone who reads this to carry out some searches by
occupation and by eg civil parish (use one which applied at 1891 in Norfolk)
and to send some feedback to the 1891 Pilot Help Desk, describing their
experiences, and asking for searches by occupation and locality eg civil
parish to be made easier. Please pass on this e-mail to anyone interested in
particular occupations or particular localities, eg the Federation of Family
History Societies, British Association for Local History, one-placers,
online parish clerks, local history recorders etc.

On a different note, another reader pointed out that recently criticism was
made of the payment system giving you only a limited time to search. Thank
you Tom Perrett for pointing out that you can purchase a voucher which
extends the time period for use

New Books & CD’s
This week I have not had to review a new book myself!

This review came in from Paul Gaskell this week, and I am happy to include
it in full. Please feel free to let me know your thoughts!

HISTORY, DIRECTORY AND GAZETTEER OF LANCASHIRE 1824/25
By Edward Baines
Available from The Archive CD Books Project, 51 St White's Road,
Cinderford,Gloucestershire GL14 3DFWebsite ; www.archivecdbooks.com/E-mail ;

Telephone ; 01594-829359 (international +44 1594-829359)
Fax ; 0870-054-3701 (international +44 870-054-3701)
Basic price £14.00 plus VAT (if applicable), postage and packing
Total price overseas (including airmail & packing) 16.39 UKP
Total price UK (including VAT, postage & packing) 18.13UKP

The Archive CD Books Project is the brainchild of family historian Rod
Neep.The firm basically takes old books which are out of copyright, scans
them, and then sells them on CD for researchers to view on their home
computers. A large array of titles is currently available, and more seem to
be added by the day. The business has recently celebrated its first
birthday. The CD reproduction of Baines directory of Lancashire 1824/25
arrived neatly packaged in a jewel case, and did not require any
installation to run on my PC. The CD is completely self-contained, and uses
the free Adobe Acrobat Reader. Obviously, a CD drive is required, along with
Windows 95 or later. The directory is not indexed, but the "Find" facility
within Acrobat makes searching easy. Researchers are also able to copy and
paste selected pages from the directory for inclusion within their own
family histories, this being both technically straightforward and permitted
by the copyright agreement under which the CDs are sold. This directory was
produced by Edward Baines in two volumes, and in total comprises
approximately 1400 pages. It is both a trade directory and a street
directory, with the latter listing the heads of households at residential
addresses. Given that the information in this directory would have been
gathered nearly twenty years before the 1841 census, this is quite clearly a
rich source of genealogical information. Although this is a Lancashire
directory, and all of the main towns within the county are featured, I would
estimate that roughly half of the pages comprise either Liverpool or
Manchester material. I had great fun identifying the Manchester pubs listed
in the directory that are still trading today - the Briton's Protection,
Crown and Anchor, Brown Bull and Salford Arms all caught my eye as surviving
nearly two centuries later. THE CD is easily read on screen, and that makes
casual browsing of the book's pages an enjoyable and productive pursuit.
Trade directories are an excellent way of adding detail to a family history.
Careful study of directories often enables the researcher to identify his
ancestors and how they made their living, as well as to draw conclusions
about the area in which they lived. Sadly, to purchase an original trade
directory of this age is beyond the means of most researchers. With this CD
reproduction, family historians get the trade directory in a format which is
easily searched, and when not in use is easy to store. Frankly, I think this
CD is an absolutely first class resource that I must give the very highest
of recommendations.

I have also seen on various mailing lists that the new edition of the book
of Cyndi’s List is available – but now in two volumes. Despite being a
little wary of the need for a book I found the earlier edition eventually
very useful as a yellow pages of where to look – and suspect the second
volume will be even better. This should be available from all good
genealogical suppliers.

Webpage reviews
http://www.genealogy.doun.org/transcriptions/index.php3
From time to time when looking at websites to review you get a little down
as there appears to be nothing new to find. But oh how you can be proved
wrong as this website proves. This is a great resource for Norfolk Family
Historians, a superb example to anyone else who might want to do similar for
other counties, and a site to make those of us with main interests elsewhere
green with envy. OK - stop the hyperbole, the site is limited, at present
the coverage is quite low, but it is growing all the time, it can take time
to navigate due to the amount of information contained, and I would prefer
the parish listing to show some icon as to whether records are available.
The search mechanism is good if a little slow (BE patient) You can search
byname, and also refined by district and year. The results come through
split into sections so you can see if there are marriages in registers or
bishops transcripts, or census, or burials. And then the final results are
provided in an easy to read table, that gives you all the information you
require, and a source. All in all I really liked this site, the people
working on it are to be heartily congratulated. There are just about 62,000
baptisms,16,000 marriages, 9,000 burials and 65,000 census records as well
as other records. And - the information is free.

http://www.pymoor.fsworld.co.uk/
Interesting, if a little unwieldy site, detailing the history and present
day of a village called Pymoor, just outside Ely in Cambridgeshire. There is
a wealth of interesting information about the village as it currently is,
but more interestingly a lot of information on the history of the village,
along with famous residents, including accounts of emigration from Pymoor in
the 1830s. The site is slightly unwieldy as there are a few large images and
the menu is not the easiest I have found to move around, but the site will
be worth a visit if you have interests in Cambridgeshire or the Fens

New on Genfair
New publications now available at the GENfair stand of the Birmingham and
Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry are Parish Registers for Dudley
St Edmund (Worcs), 1891 Census Surname Index for Dudley, Sedgley,
Wolverhampton & District (Staffs), Bridgen's Directory 1833 for
Wolverhampton (Staffs), Wrightson's Directory 1818 for Birmingham (Warks),
Parish Registers for Aston Cantlow and Kenilworth (Warks), Billing's 1855
Directory of Worcestershire, Members Interests Directory on CD, floppy disks
or fiche, National Burial Index. There are also large scale early OS maps of
Cannock Chase & Staffs (Staffs.) and Wolverhampton & Ironbridge (Staffs).
Use the search facility of this extensive GENfair stand to find the parish
you are interested in.

New items on the GENfair stand of Glamorgan FHS cover parish registers of
Coity, Ilston, Llanmadoc and Waunarlwydd (on microfiche); monumental
inscriptions (MIs) for parish churches of Briton Ferry, Cwm Taf, Llanfabon,
Neath St Thomas and Pyle, and the chapels at Pontarddulais and Pontlliw (all
fiche) and Waunarlwydd St Barnabas (booklet); and school admission registers
for Dowlais, St Illtyd Girls (fiche or booklet) and Merthyr Tydfil,
Twynyrodyn (fiche only).

The Yorkshire Pollbook for 1807 has just been added to Stuart Raymond's
series of Original Pollbooks at his Internet Genealogical Bookshop.

Upcoming Events
Last week I mentioned the South Western Family History Fair in Weston Super
Mare which takes place on 7th July – Thanks to everyone who confirmed the
venue and price for me. The event takes place in The Winter Gardens, Weston
Super Mare, from 10am to 4pm and admission is 1.50 UKP

Two upcoming lectures at the Society of Genealogists seem particularly
interesting. The first on Wednesday 11 July is called Getting the Best of
the 1881 Census, and is being taken by John Hanson

The second is on Saturday 14th July and is Peter Christian’s lecture on
Genealogy on the Internet. This is in the morning. You can find out about
both by contacting the SoG via their website at www.sog.org.uk

You can find a listing of upcoming events, and links to respective websites
on the GENEVA site (part of GENUKI) at
:http://users.ox.ac.uk/~malcolm/genuki/geneva/

New on GENUKI
Bedfordshire Links/pages added/amended:
Bedfordshire Record Office; Index of Holdings of the Bedford Record Office;
Burial Indexes; Poor Law Union Records; Estates and Family Records;
Solicitors Records; Estate Agent Archives; General Archives; Other Archives;
Business Records; Bedfordshire Victuallers' Licences; Analysis of the Census
By Parish from 1801 to Present; Local Census Listings between 1678 and 1915
for Bedfordshire; Church of England Parish Registers; Non-Church of England
Registers; List of Bedfordshire Coroners' Records; Samuel Lewis'
Topographical Gazetteer 1831; A Guide for Newbies; IGI Batch Numbers;
Manors; Militia Lists and Musters 1757-1876; Tudor and Stuart Muster Rolls;
Bedford Record Office Newpaper Holdings; Birth and Death Registers; Poor Law
Unions; List of Bedfordshire Poor Law Union Records; List of Bedfordshire
Probate Records; School Records; Societies Links and Information; Clapham
Historical Society; Flitwick Local History Society; Friends of the Bunyan
Museum; Manshead Archaeological Society of Dunstable; Potton History
Society; Roxton & District Local History Group; Sandy & District Historical
Society; Toddington Historical Society; List of Bedfordshire Land and Window
Tax Assessments; List of Bedfordshire Hearth Tax Records; List of
Protestation Returns, etc for Bedfordshire; Register of Electors; List of
Bedfordshire Poll Book Holdings; [Cardington] Samuel Whitbread; Chalgrave;
Chellington; Chicksands; Clapham; Clifton; Clophill; Cockayne Hatley;
Colmworth; Cople; Cranfield; Dean; Dunstable; Dunton; Eastcotts; Eaton Bray;
Edworth; Elstow; Eversholt; Everton; Eyeworth; Farndish; Felmersham;
[Felmersham] www.felmersham.net; Flitton; Flitwick; Goldington; Great
Barford; Harlington; Harrold; Haynes; Heath and Reach; Henlow; Higham
Gobion; Hockcliffe; Holwell; Houghton Conquest; Houghton Regis; Hulcote;
Husbourne Crawley; Kempston; [Kempston] Kempston War Memorial; Keysoe;
Knotting; Langford; Leighton Buzzard; Lidlington; Little Barford; Little
Staughton; Lower Gravenhurst; Lower Stondon; Luton; Marston Moretaine;
Maulden; Melchbourne; Meppershall; Millbrook; Milton Bryan; Milton Ernest;
Northill; Oakley; Old Warden; Pavenham; Pertenhall; Podington; Potsgrove;
Potton; Pulloxhill; Radwell; Ravensden; Renhold; Ridgmont; Riseley; Roxton;
Salford; Sandy; Sharnbrook; Shefford; Shefford Hardwick; Shelton;
Shillington; Silsoe; Souldrop; Southill; Stagsden; Stanbridge; Steppingley;
Stevington; Stotfold; Streatley; Studham; Sundon; Sutton; Tempsford;
Thurleigh; Tilsworth; Tingrith; Toddington; Totternhoe; Turvey; Upper
Gravenhurst; Upper Stondon; Westoning; Whipsnade; Wilden; [Wilden] List of
Rectors for St Nicholas Church, Wilden; Willington; Wilstead, Wilshampstead,
Wylhamsted or Willshamstead; Woburn; [Woburn] Woburn Abbey; [Woburn]
Gazetteer for 1898; Woburn Sands; Woodside; Wootton; Wrestlingworth;
Wymington, Wimington or Winnington; Yelden.

Cardiganshire
Links/pages added/amemded:
National Library of Wales; [Aberystwyth, St Michael] Index to Aberystwyth
and North Ceredigion: in Old Photographs; [Aberystwyth, St Michael] Index to
Born on a Perilous Rock : Aberystwyth Past and Present; [Aberystwyth, St
Michael] Aberystwyth Website.

Essex
Links/pages added/amemded:
Abbess Roding; Aythorpe Roding; Beauchamp Roding; Berners Roding; High
Roding; Leaden Roding; Margaret Roding; White Roding.

Glamorganshire
Links/pages added/amemded: Glamorgan Lookup Exchange.; Western Mail and
Echo; [Cowbridge] Glamorgan Federation of Women's Institutes; [Llangiwg]
Pontardawe and District; [Penarth] All Saints, Penarth; [Swansea] Extracts
from the 1871 census; [Swansea] Swansea - Reflections in Black and White;
[Swansea] Swansea, its Port and Trade and Development; [Ystradyfodwg]
Treorchy Library.

Gloucestershire
Links/pages added/amemded: Genealogical Database; Gloucester Record Office;
CD.3 The FINAL for Gloucestershire; 1851 Gloucestershire Census; 1851
Gloucestershire Census Sample; Gloucestershire Parish Churches; The Francis
Frith Collection; Medical Heritage of Great Britain; List of Coal Mines in
Gloucestershire, 1880; The Hereford & Gloucester Canal Trust; Wills of
Gloucestershire - Surnames beginning Z; [Adlestrop] Adlestrop Links;
[Alderton] Alderton Links; [Aston Somerville] Aston Somerville Links;
[Bitton] War Memorial; [Bledington] Bledington Links; [Bourton on the Water]
Bourton on the Water Links; [Bristol] Bristol - City & County Archive;
[Bristol] Bristol Historical (and other facts); [Broadwell] Broadwell Links;
[Charlton Abbots] Charlton Abbots Links; [Chipping Campden] Chipping Campden
on the Web; [Chipping Campden] Chipping Camden Vicars; [Condicote] Condicote
Links; [Daylesford] Daylesford Links; [Dumbleton] Dumbleton Links; [Dursley]
Dursley, a look at the Town in the Past, Present and Future; [Dyrham] War
Memorial; [Frampton Cotterell] War Memorial; [Gloucester] Gloucester City
War Memorial; [Great Rissington] Rissington Links; [Gretton] Gretton Links;
[Guiting Power] The Guitings Links; [Hawling] Hawling Links; [Hinton on the
Green] Hinton Links; [Icomb] Icomb Links; [Kingswood (nr. Bristol)] War
Memorial; [Little Compton] Little Compton Links; [Lower Slaughter] The
Slaughters Links; [Lower Swell] Swell Links; [Maugersbury] Maugersbury
Links; [Naunton] Naunton Links; [North Nibley] Index; [North Nibley] Index;
[Notgrove] Notgrove Links; [Oddington] Oddington Links; [Owlpen] Owlpen
Manor Estate; [Randwick] War Memorial; [Salperton] Salperton Links;
[Selsley] 1851 Census Transcript; [Selsley] A Genealogical Guide to
Woodchester, Selsley and the south Cotswolds; [Selsley] Selsley Village
Records; [Sevenhampton] 1750-1799; [Sevenhampton] 1800-1850; [Sevenhampton]
Sevenhampton Links; [Sevenhampton] Sevenhampton Wills; [Sezincote] Sezincote
Links; [Stow on the Wold] Stow on the Wold Links; [Sudeley Manor] Sudeley
Links; [Temple Guiting] War Memorial; [Todenham] War Memorial; [Todenham]
Rectors of Todenham, 1221-1957; [Uley] Uley - Points of Interest; [Welford
on Avon] War Memorial; [Welford on Avon] Rectors of Welford on Avon,
1065-1987; [Westcote] Westcote Links; [Westerleigh] War Memorial;
[Whittington] Whittington Links; [Wickwar] Borough of Wickwar,
Gloucestershire - Elected Mayors 1627 - 1881; [Wickwar] Churchwardens of
Wickwar 1692 to 1844; [Wickwar] Rectors of Wickwar 1570 - 1914; [Winchcombe]
Winchcombe Links; [Woodchester] 1851 Census Transcript; [Wormington]
Wormington Links; [Wyck Rissington] Wick Rissington Links.

GENUKI's Home Page - http://www.genuki.org.uk/
GENUKI's Listings of:Family history Societies -
http://www.genuki.org.uk/Societies/ Genealogy Mailing Lists -
http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/MailingLists.html Surname Lists -
http://www.genuki.org.uk/indexes/SurnamesLists.html
GENUKI's Frequently Asked Questions File -
http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/genuki/faq.html

And finally…
Well that’s all for another week – I hope there has been something for your
interests in this issue –if not why not suggest something for me to reviews
or mention! You can always drop me a line to
A Good WeekRob

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