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From: "Brian Cave" <>
Subject: Re: [UK-W&H] Born in a workhouse
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:58:27 +0100
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That's interesting Tracey,

On the birth certificate I have from Shoreditch Workhouse, the father's name
and occupation are stated, but the mother's name is shown as "Elizabeth
Cave" - no 'formerly so and so', and the child used his mother's surname.

This raises some points - obviously they were unmarried, but presumably the
father must have actually been present to have had his name on the
certificate?
This being so I would expect some paperwork to exist to recover the expense
of Elizabeth's confinement from the father?
Any ideas regarding baptism? Were children baptised in the workhouse - the
nearest church - or not at all?
As mother and baby were separated within days of the birth one wonders if
any such ceremony could have taken place.

The father has disappeared into thin air, can't find him on census or
anywhere else - I presume he did a runner.
Anybody any thoughts on the points raised?
Regards
Brian


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracey Hickman" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:00 AM
Subject: [UK-W&H] Born in a workhouse



Hi Marjorie & Brian,
My grandmother was born in Croydon workhouse, although the address on her
birth certificate makes you think at first that it was a residence as it is
a number followed by a street name. On researching the street I have been
told it is where the workhouse hospital was. Her mother wasnt married when
she was born, so the box for the father's name remains blank. My grandmother
was fostered by a very wicked family. She is the "real" Cinderella! She went
into service at 14 & needed police protection to get rid of her foster
family. The mother would turn up on pay day demanding her wages. While
living with her foster family she was given a different name from the one on
her birth certificate. I am not sure exactly when she found out her real
name, but it must've been when she got her birth certificate for some
reason. After alot of searching we have been able to track down some of her
maternal relatives. They have given us the name of my g grandmother's
sweetheart, but we've hit a brick wall in finding out what happened to him.
However, my grandmother was named after her mother with her second name
being Alberta. Not a particularly common name for 1915 & it turns out the
sweetheart's name was Albert. So you see there are often little clues
staring you in the face.
I wish you luck in finding the answers you need.
Regards,
Tracey


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