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From: "Maureen Avery" <>
Subject: Re: [UK-W&H] Orphanage
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:56:28 -0000
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Hi Mary

Many thanks for your comments. Unfortuantely I have explored the deaths of
all the Robert Mumfords from 1881 to 1906 and seem to be down to about four
'possibles'. I have not looked at the death of female Mumfords about that
period and perhaps that is worth the effort. The strange thing is that there
was an Esther Rosina Mumford who was only 15 on the 1901 Census and her
father was Robert Mumford. My Esther was Esther Margaret.I sent off for the
birth certificate and got quite excited when I found the father was Robert
but there the excitement died. When I
checked for the marriage of this Robert and the mother as it appears on the
birth certificate of Esther I cannot find it although I have looked through
twice from 1837 to 1886.

I did know about St.Albans in Herts since I came from Edmonton but I still
seem to recall whilst trawling through the 1891 Census coming across
something to do with St Albans in London. I have a feeling it was connected
to some sort of charity and at the time I did look for her but with no
success. I'd just like to have another look but cannot think where it was.

Anyway thanks once again for your help.

Maureen
----- Original Message -----
From: "MaryH" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-W&H] Orphanage


> My cousin mentions St.Albans and I recall some time
> > back that there is an area? or place in London with that title. That is
> all I know about her.
> > I realise it is almost a hopeless task but I ask myself if Robert was
not
> her father why did she alight on this name? What was the connection.Where
> was she in 1901? Surely she would have been known by the name she used in
> 1906.
>
> Hi Maureen,
>
> St Albans is a town about 20 miles north of London (although these days it
> is virtually in the suburbs!).
>
> Have you searched the census for her using just her age and christian
names?
> She may be there but with her name mispelled. Similarly have you
considered
> variant spellings for her in the birth indexes?
>
> The father may be right, but he may be a complete invention to save having
> to admit to her illegitimate birth. Many people invented fathers for this
> reason and sometimes the name used turns out to be that of a relative. She
> may have been raised by Mr and Mrs Mumford and adopted their name, so that
> may not actually be her birth name, in which case you have a virtually
> impossible job trying to find her birth records.
>
> You could check the death records for a female Mumford dying who could
have
> been her mother and see if you can make any progress that way and also to
> check for a likely Robert dying just in case he is real.
>
> Good luck
> Mary Hallett - West Sussex
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