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From: Lark & Victor <>
Subject: Re: [UEL] Oriskany Records
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 22:01:28 -0500
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http://www2.whidbey.com/jerod/oosterhout.htm
More about the life at that time.

http://www2.whidbey.com/jerod/toc.htm
Links to essays, websites and articles concerning Joseph Brant, noted
Iroquois Indian of the Mohawk Nation, before, during and after the American
Revolution

http://www.global2000.net/fortklock/Oriskanyhist.htm
THE AMBUSCADE.

From his camp at Fort Stanwix St. Leger saw all, and directed all. Sir John
Johnson led the force thrown out to meet the patriots, with Butler as his
second, but Brant was its controlling head. The Indians were most numerous:
"the whole corps, " a "Large body," St. Leger testifies. And with the
Indians he reports were "some troops." The presence of Johnson, and of
Butler, as well as of Claus and Watts, of Captains Wilson, Hare and
McDonald, the chief royalists of the valley, proves that their followers
were in the fight. Butler refers to the New Yorkers whom we know as
Johnson's Greens, and the Rangers, as in the engagement in large numbers.
St. Leger was under the absolute necessity of preventing the patriot force
from attaching his successfully. He could not do less than send every
available man out to meet it. Quite certainly the choicest of the army were
taken from the dull duty of the siege for this critical operation. They left
camp at night and lay above and around the ravine at Oriskany, in the early
morning of the sixth of August. They numbered not less than twelve hundred
men under chosen cover.

THE LOSSES.

The slaughter at Oriskany was terrible. St. Leger claims that four hundred
of Herkimer's men were killed and two hundred captures, leaving only two
hundred to escape. No such number of prisoners was ever accounted for. The
Americans admitted two hundred killed, one fourth of the whole army. St.
Leger places the number of Indians killed, at thirty, and the like number
wounded, including favorite chiefs and confidential warriors. It was
doubtless greater, for the Senecas alone lost thirty-six killed, and in all
the tribes twice as many must have been killed. St. Leger makes no account
of any of his whites killed or wounded. Butler, however, mentions of New
Yorkers (Johnson's Greens) killed, Captain McDonald; Captain Watts
dangerously wounded and one sabaltern. Of the Tory Rangers Captains Wilson
and Hare (their chiefs after Butler) were killed. With such loss of
officers, the death list of privates must have been considerable. The Greens
alone lost thirty. In Britain it was believed as many of the British were
killed by the Indians as by the militia.

>
> I am fairly new to this, and was wondering if anyone knew where I might find
> records for the Battle of Oriskany (fort Stanwix). I am looking for
> information on a ggggrand-father John Hare who was killed in the battle on
> August 6th 1777. Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>
> Thank you,
>
> Steve
>
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