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From: "Lorine McGinnis Schulze" <>
Subject: Re: [UPP-CAN] A crack in the canadian brick wall
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:57:08 -0400
In-Reply-To: <007601c0ed7d$69a09380$03c01a26@marcnbonnie>




On 5 Jun 2001, at 1:07, Marc and Bonnie wrote:

>
> BIRTH:
> Lucy Caroline DOBBINS
> Sex: F
>
> EVENT:
> Birth: 2 Feb. 1846
>
> Parents:
> Father: Andrew P. DOBBINS
> Mother: Elizabeth LAVOUCHER WARREN
>
> But I can't figure out what her birth place might have been.
> It's just noted as E. Ontario. I was hoping that those of you
> who are more experienced with Canadian birth records of the
> 1800's might be able to offer some assistance.


Dear Bonnie,

The important thing on the IGI entries is the source
information. When you found your Lucy Dobbins, there was a
notation at the bottom of the page (I searched to find her so I
could explain this):

Source
Film # 448040
Page 46
Reference 73898

You can click on the Film Number and it will give you the
source for the entry. If it is Church records, it will give the
name of the church (that's what you're hoping for of course),
but it can also be a submitted entry by an individual. In your
case that is what this is, because when you click on the film
number you get:

"Endowments for the dead, 1884-1970; heir indexes,
1884-1961; baptisms for the dead, 1943-1970 Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Logan Temple "

Clicking on the above entry takes you to another page where
you are given the details of the film:

"HEIR INDEXES list the oldest male person to be
baptized into the
L.D.S. Church as the index term for the sealings of
his ancestors.
This sytem was not very accurate because heirs
often had common
ancestors. Two families descending from different
lines of the same
person might designate different heirs for that
person. Heir indexes
were kept with each vol. before 1943 and kept in
separate vols. from
1943-1961. . ENDOWMENTS REGISTERS
contain ordinance data
and vital data on the endowed individual. They wre
kept separately for
males and females. . BAPTISM AND
ENDOWMENTS CARDS
contain ordinance data for a single individual on
each card. They
include baptism as well as endowment information.
early cards were
kept in separate files for males and females.
Beginning in 1949 the
two files were merged. This file contains patron
submitted endowments. Beginning in the
1960s many names for endowments were
generated by the controlled
extraction program. ... <rest edited for space!>."

It's now up to you to send for the film and see who submitted
Lucy. The validity of the source depends on the skill of the
researcher who submitted the entry. You may have hit a gold
mine (a living contact) who has done primary research and
can provide you with sources, but you may also have found a
contact whose only sources were Great-Aunt Harriet, whose
memory has always been a little fuzzy....

btw I suspect that the name Lavoucher is a phonetic
representation of a French name If Elizabeth was married
twice, it is very possible that the submitter entered her under
her maiden name (La Voucher?) and her second married
name (Warren?)

In any case, I hope your find turns out to be a treasure trove!

Lorine



Lorine McGinnis Schulze



The Olive Tree Genealogy
http://OliveTreeGenealogy.com/


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