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From: "Donkelly" <>
Subject: [USGENWEB-ALL-L] Re: More clarifycation.
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 21:45:45 -0700
References: <3.0.3.32.20001028203223.01e85210@127.0.0.1>


Esse and list,

The NC or AB has never asked us pledge funds or suggested that we do so.

We have not asked the AB or NC to do anything, we were willing to secure the
trademark for the project and figure out how to manage it later.

Joe had a good idea and we went along with it to pledge sufficient funds to
cover the costs. More than one of us considered the advisability of, based
on past performance,
of keeping the board out of the immediate process of legally securing the
mark.

Nothing was said about using the funds for anything other than securing the
trademark, USGenWeb..........in other words, nothing was said about
challenging Linda over her application for The mark for The USGenWeb
Archives.

Don Kelly

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Schunk" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [USGENWEB-ALL-L] Archives - Mark


> Esse and List,
>
> NO money has been COLLECTED at all.
>
> There is only a list of people who have "pledged" to contribute money --
IF
> asked to by the Board, and it would only be for an action that the pledger
> agrees with.
>
> This list can be found at
> http://home.kscable.com/jschunk/pledge.html
>
> None of these folks have contributed any money yet. In fact, they haven't
> even been asked by the Board to contribute, and they may never be asked
to.
>
> John
>
>
>
> At 09:15 PM 10/28/00 EDT, Esse Frye wrote:
> >Don;
> >
> >The only area that this was mentioned was in the Board minutes, and this
was
> >AFTER Joe started collecting money for the fund. I don't remember
reading
> >anything about the fund being raised on this list for filing for a Mark
> >until after Joe mentioned it on the BOARD-list.
> >
> >The way I remember that it was brought up to collect a fund to hire a
lawyer
> >and to fight Linda's right to her trademark. It appears that Linda did
have
> >a legal right to her claim and this was a way that the
> >project did not have to lose face.
> >
> >I don't usually get into matters such as these, but when it comes to
money
> >and where it goes, it starts to bother me. As I did not pledge anything,
I
> >have no right to question where it went too, but if I was one who did
pledge
> >money, I would like to know if you ever received a receipt, and have ever
> >asked where the money is deposited, what name is it filed ubder and is it
> >tax-exempt?
> >
> >The last time it was mentioned as to how much money was collected was
over
> >$1000.00. That was several weeks ago. If this money is being raised to
file
> >a trademark, why hasn't it been done? If I remember right, the cost is
> >around $300-500. If it is going to be done, who is taking the
> >responsibility? Tim as NC or the Board members as a whole?
> >
> >What you do with your money is your own business, but before I even
consider
> >pledging, I try to find out as much as I can, and believe me folks, there
> >isn't much coming from the project as a whole.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Esse
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----Original Message Follows----
> >From: "Donkelly" <>
> >To: "Esse Frye" <>, <>
> >Subject: Re: [USGENWEB-ALL-L] Archives - Mark
> >Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 17:53:17 -0700
> >
> >For new interestees, I was one of the pledgees who raised the money to
apply
> >for the trademark USGenWeb period.
> >
> >We didn't raise the money for any other purpose, least of all to
challenge
> >Linda's continued and never rescinded right to use the name USGenWeb
> >Archives.
> >
> >I think some need to be assured as to why we raised the money and this
> >explanation should do it.
> >
> >Don Kelly, pledgee.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Esse Frye" <>
> >To: <>
> >Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 5:22 PM
> >Subject: Re: [USGENWEB-ALL-L] Archives - Mark
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Carol;
> > >
> > > The way I have been following this, was that Linda created the
Archives
> > > Project. This was after USGenWeb was formed. I feel to protect her
> >interest
> > > in her creation of the Archives, she went and filed for a trademark,
> >which
> > > legitimately she has the right to do.
> > >
> > > In the formation of the USGenWeb Project, the responsibility of filing
> >for
> >a
> > > trademark, belonged to the creator (Likewise Jeff, the Board or Dr.
L.)
> >The
> > > only reason now that there is such a big riff is because now that
Linda
> >has
> > > filed for a trademark of her own, the project is running scared
because
> >they
> > > may have just lost the chance of ever gaining the name back. The
funds
> >were
> > > raised by the project to fight Linda, and not to file for a name. That
is
> > > the whole point!
> > >
> > > There doesn't seem to be much foresight in what would happen down the
> >road
> > > as genealogy became more popular then was thought.
> > >
> > > My opinion.
> > > Esse
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: Carol C-H <>
> > > To:
> > > Subject: [USGENWEB-ALL-L] Archives - Mark
> > > Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 12:47:50 -0500
> > >
> > > Re: The Archives - does the compilation belong to the USGenWeb
Project,
> >or
> > > to Linda Lewis? I have asked this before.
> > >
> > > Who SHOULD have been filing for the mark? Did they do so?
> > >
> > > In all the controversy surrounding Linda Lewis and her filing, has it
> >ever
> > > occurred to anyone that maybe she was trying to protect the Archives
from
> >a
> > > threat, the identity of which we are even now not aware? Given the
> > > sequence of events at the time she filed, I wonder.
> > >
> > > It occurs to me to also wonder if it is a Good Idea to fight her
filing,
> > > given that, having waited this long to act, the AB would be so many
> >months
> > > behind in being able to protect ANYTHING.
> > >
> > > Perhaps, in this instance, the interests of USGenWeb might be better
> >served
> > > by trying to work WITH Linda, rather than against her?
> > > Carol C-H <> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/
> > >
> > >
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