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From: W David Samuelsen <>
Subject: Re: [ALL-L] Hijacked XXGenWeb Domain names
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:30:20 -0600
References: <MBBBJIOKDCHLBIPNJPKDKEIOCHAA.keith@giddeon.com>


There is only ONE word to describe what Traci did:

*** BLACKMAIL *** to do HER WAY. Thankful for WIPO, they have the
authority to confiscate from her and restore to rightful owners.

David Samuelsen

Keith Giddeon wrote:
>
> Carol,
>
> You obviously need to re-read what's going on. I have no argument with the
> fact that someone wishes to protect GAGenWeb. I DO have a problem with
> someone who is not affiliated with GAGenWeb taking such action, then trying
> to dictate how the Project will go about its business in order to be granted
> what's rightfully theirs.
> Also, maybe you should read up on the law a bit. GAGenWeb is a legally
> protected service mark. True, it can be registered by anyone. BUT, a proper
> challenge to the registration will be won by GAGenWeb and not any
> CYBERSQUATTER in the world. The problem with this procedure is that
> arbitration hawks get paid to do this and it is the only way to go about it
> without the registrar unilaterally doing the right thing.
> GAGenWeb has done nothing whatsoever to indicate it is going to make a
> profit off of anything. For someone to come in and take this action is
> uncalled for, and for you to condone such action is pitiful!
> How would you feel if I registered www.carolc-h.com to protect it from
> evil-doers? Then, when you want to use it, I tell you well, you have to do
> this and this and this.
> Give me a break Carol. I look forward to the day you leave GAGenWeb. It will
> be a day of celebration here on my screen.
>
> --Keith
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carol C-H [mailto:]
> > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 8:14 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [ALL-L] Hijacked XXGenWeb Domain names
> >
> >
> > Linda -
> >
> > I've not looked to see who it is, but whoever she is, she has
> > done nothing
> > wrong, IMHO. The domains were for sale and anyone in the world
> > could have
> > bought them for any reason at all - porno sites, FTM, or whoever.
> > How can
> > anyone possibly by any stretch of their imagination conceive that
> > this was
> > a Bad Thing she did? If the state GenWebs did not want them bought by
> > someone else, they should have bought them long ago. If I had more money
> > than I knew what to do with, I'd have bought gagenweb if I had
> > known it was
> > for sale, just to keep the bad guys for getting it - if this person is a
> > USGenWeb member and did it to protect the domains, IMHO we should
> > thank her
> > - not criticize her -
> >
> > Carol
> >
> > At 05:13 AM 10/8/2001, Linda Haas Davenport wrote:
> > >She has also registered argenweb.org
> > >argenweb.com is owned by NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
> > >
> > >How interesting.
> > >
> > >Linda
> > >homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~haas
> > >MarionCoAR: http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/
> > >SurnameLists: H.A.A.S/H.A.S.S. L.E.W.A.L.L.E.N
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Keith Giddeon" <>
> > >To: <>
> > >Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 1:49 AM
> > >Subject: [ALL-L] Hijacked XXGenWeb Domain names
> > >
> > >
> > > > To All Members of the USGenWeb Project:
> > > >
> > > > It came to my attention recently that a member of the USGW
> > has taken it
> > >upon
> > > > herself to register MANY domains for the various XXGenWebs.
> > These domain
> > > > registrations cover .coms and .orgs as far as I can tell.
> > > >
> > > > Upon hearing this, I immediately checked the WHOIS search engine on
> > >Network
> > > > Solutions and found that gagenweb.com and gagenweb.org had indeed been
> > > > registered by this member.
> > > >
> > > > Saturday evening I contacted this member with a friendly
> > email asking if
> > >she
> > > > could explain why she had registered GAGenWeb domains when she is not
> > > > affiliated with GAGenWeb in any official capacity.
> > > >
> > > > Her response was that she was "protecting ALL volunteer work from big
> > > > business."
> > > >
> > > > As a member who is officially affiliated with GAGenWeb, both
> > as a County
> > > > Coordinator and Regional Coordinator, I am highly offended by this
> > > > statement. Whose right is it to "step in and protect"
> > something with which
> > > > they are not affiliated, and even more, with NO official
> > authorization to
> > >do
> > > > so?
> > > >
> > > > This member also stated in her response that she would "hand
> > over" these
> > >two
> > > > domains if GAGenWeb became a legally registered non-profit
> > corporation.
> > >Now,
> > > > maybe I've totally missed something here, but...
> > > > GAGenWeb is already a non-profit unincorporated volunteer
> > organization,
> > >and
> > > > further, I have heard no one in GAGenWeb discuss becoming
> > anything that
> > > > would make it a for-profit organization.
> > > >
> > > > GAGenWeb has leadership, like all XXGenWebs. Each state project's
> > >leadership
> > > > has the authority to protect itself from profiteers. So, I
> > ask you all,
> > >what
> > > > are we to do? Do people not realize that XXGenWeb names are legally
> > > > protected Service Marks in existence now for over five years? Should
> > > > individual members have the right to step into XXGenWebs'
> > business when
> > >they
> > > > are not affiliated with the state project, and therefore have
> > no authority
> > > > to act on their behalf?
> > > >
> > > > I have written to the registrar of these domains and asked that they
> > >cancel
> > > > the registrations per their Registration Agreement. I asked
> > this only on
> > > > behalf of GAGenWeb, the only state project with which I am
> > affiliated. To
> > > > see if your state project's name has been illegally registered go to:
> > > > http://whois.dotregistrar.com/ and type in the name. Be sure
> > to change the
> > > > pull-down menu when checking for .com .net and .org.
> > > >
> > > > To end I now ask Traci Parsons-Holder to agree that GAGenWeb
> > can and will
> > > > protect its project from profiteers and turn over the two domains she
> > > > registered (gagenweb.com and gagenweb.org) to the leadership of the
> > >GAGenWeb
> > > > Project as soon as arrangements can be made. (I expect the best way to
> > > > register these domains is in the name of the XXGenWeb, with
> > the contact
> > > > address being that of the SC which will be changed if a new SC ever
> > >succeeds
> > > > another.)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks folks,
> > > >
> > > > Keith Giddeon
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> > Carol C-H <> http://www2.netdoor.com/~cch/
> >
> >
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