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From: "Fred Smoot" <>
Subject: Re: [USGenWeb-SW] Next Motion
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:09:26 -0700
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Reply down under.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bosque Lover" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:55 AM
Subject: [USGenWeb-SW] Next Motion


> This is the motion that we have before the AB for discussion. Do you all, guests
> included, have any discussion on this?
> Bettie <><
> -------------------------------
> I move to adopt the following procedures as the Project's
> official procedures to be followed in any case of suspected
> Fraudulent Registrations:
>
> Procedures for Fraudulent Registrations
>
> It is the policy of the USGenWeb Project that a member, where
> duly qualified, may cast only one vote per office, or per
> question in polls.
>
> In the event a member registers to vote more than one time the
> procedures as outlined in the Election Committee guidelines
> will be followed.
>
> In the event the EC, per its current guidelines, reports a
> possible case of Fraudulent Registrations to the NC/AB the
> following steps will be taken:
>
> (1) The NC/AB member will forward a copy of the report to
> Exec.
>
> (2) The NC will assign a sequential number to the report,
> notify the SC(s), ASC(s), SP(s) and individual(s) named in the
> report that such a report has been received.
>
> (3) The NC will seek a volunteer from the AB to lead the
> investigation. If there are no volunteers the NC will lead the
> investigation. All parties involved will be given the
> opportunity to provide input. All documentation will be collected
> by
> the leader only. The AB may use the services of the Technical
> Advisor
> (see below) in the investigation.
>
> (4) The person(s) being investigated will be accorded the benefit
> of
> doubt if reasonable explanations are proffered, and they will be
> given
> the opportunity for review and comment at each point of the
> investigation.
>
> (5) Based on discussion of the findings the AB shall determine
> by vote whether or not to remove the individual(s) from the
> Registered Voter List and whether any additional action should be
> undertaken.
>
> (6) The NC shall advise, via e-mail, the parties involved of
> the Advisory Board's determination with a cc to Exec.
>
> In the event a possible case of Fraudulent Registrations or
> suspected case of aliases is reported to the NC or AB member by
> an individual the following steps will be taken:
>
> (1) The AB member receiving notification of a possible
> fraudulent registrations situation and/or suspected case of
> aliases will ask the notifying individual if he/she will agree to
> the
> disclosure of his/her name. If so the AB member will forward the
> e-mail to the NC and Exec. If not the AB member will remove all
> identification of the sender from the e-mail and forward the
> e-mail
> to
> the Exec and forward a full copy of the e-mail to the NC.
>
> (2) The NC shall notify the EC of the situation and ask the EC
> to check its files for possible multiple voter registrations and
> for any information the EC may have that has a bearing on the
> reported situation.
>
> (3) Items 2 through 6 above will be followed
>
> (4) The person(s) being investigated will be
> given the opportunity for review and comment at each point of the
> investigation.
>
> (5) The investigation may be referred to the Board if the
> investigator determines by evidence that the accused is not at
> fault
> or in violation, and a report describing those findings will be
> submitted for action by the Advisory Board. If the Advisory Board
> concurs with the finding, no further action is required, if the
> Advisory Board does not concur, then the investigation continues.
>
>
> ************
> Technical Advisor
>
> The Advisory Board will appoint, by vote, someone to the position
> of
> Technical Advisor.
>
> The Technical Advisor will provide advice as requested in topics
> including but not limited to Domain Registrations, Internet
> Provider Addressing (TCP/IP), Routing, Electronic Mail, FTP and
> General Internet
> Technology.
>
> Applicants will demonstrate education and experience related to
> these topics.
>
> The Technical Advisor may be requested to provide advice in
> relation to grievances, registration conflicts and other
>
> situations requiring the Advisor to agree to confidentiality.
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Reply,

This pursuit after the dastardly vote-frauders is, in the words of the Bard, "Much Ado
About Nothing."

The only thing that can be said for this voter-fraud dog and pony show is that it
allowed the current NC/AB to avoid confronting the real meaningful issues facing USGWP
this last term.

Those issues are:

Legal recognition of USGWP
Legal retension of donated data
Membership protections including membership meetings

Sure, I would agree that voter-fraud has occured in USGWP's past, after all, one Texican
RootsLady even offered lessons on how to beat the USGWP voting system. That is why she
was annointed with the "Double Voter" moniker.

I even have reason belief that one USGWP member was using an alias to hold a county
webite. However, I have no absolute proof that the LC's name on the county page was
alias, nor do I know if the alleged phony LC ever registered to vote. I contend that the
whole issue of voter fraud is difficult to prove, and in any case, miniscule indeed and
not worthy of the almost year long effort it has received.

What if the ivory tower politicos finds someone guilty of double voting and takes action
against him - and ruins that person's reputation in the process? Then later, it is found
out that the guily culprit was not guily after all - and even worse, the NC/AB had
actually committed a willful act against an innocent person. So the harmed LC brings
suit against USGWP. The rub is, USGWP is not registered anywhere so it can't be sued.
But its "members" can be sued. That means you and me. IMHO, I would prefer not to be
sued because of a willful act of the NC/AB.

Fred Smoot
USGWP RAL Candidate: http://www.californios.us/2006/
Churchill Co, NVGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nvchurch/
Pershing Co, NVGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nvpershi/


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