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From: Keith Giddeon <>
Subject: Re: [USGW-SE] Some Facts for You Folks
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:18:49 -0500
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I would be happy to get on with the election. Except we have an illegal
candidate and the leaders of the project are shutting down election
discussions. I'm not sure where to turn. Free speech is going out the
door. I know some people who can't even sub to this list. They've waited
for days to get on and can't.

What gives?

--Keith

Jan Cortez wrote:

> Keith,
>
> This is what the bylaws state regarding qualifications to run for office:
>
> Article IV: Duties/Qualifications of Advisory Board: Section 9:
>
> "Qualifications of nominees for State Coordinator Representative, {{{{
> Local Coordinator Representative,}}}}} and Special Project
> Representative are the same with the addition that their service shall
> have been as a State Coordinator, {{{{{{Local Coordinator,}}}}}} or
> one of the various positions associated with the Special Projects,
> respectively."
>
> So please tell me where it says that a CC Rep has to be a *County
> Coordinator*? I see the verbiage as *Local Coordinator*. A local
> coordinator can be a county coordinator or a special projects
> coordinator, or a defunct county coordinator, etc. It just *does not*
> specify *county Coordinator.*
>
> Personally, rather than argue something that it just doesn't state in
> the bylaws - let's get on with the campaign. You have your views and
> Ellen has her's - so let's hear what you have in mind if you are
> elected. Let's try and be proactive.
>
> Just my ten cents worth.
>
> Jan
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Giddeon" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [USGW-SE] Some Facts for You Folks - slight edit
>
>
>> Denise,
>>
>> Ellen's past ethical standards are not at issue here. What IS at
>> issue is what the bylaws say. By any reasonable person's
>> interpretation of the bylaws clearly shows that Ellen is not
>> qualified to run for a County Coordinator's seat. She was NOT a CC
>> until 5 months ago! What is it that is so darn difficult to
>> understand here?
>>
>> --Keith
>>
>> Denise Woodside wrote:
>>
>>> I have worked with Ellen Pack since I first begain in this project.
>>> In my opinion, she has always presented herself with the highest
>>> ethical standards. Her character speaks for itself and I could in no
>>> way believe that there is anything devious in the works here.
>>> IMHO,
>>> Denise Woodside
>>>
>>> On 6/19/05, Keith Giddeon <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am writing to inform you of a disturbing little matter that has
>>>>> arisen of late. The matter of Ellen Pack's supposed eligibility to
>>>>> run
>>>>> as the CC Rep for the SEMA seat.
>>>>> Well it seems that Ellen has only been a CC in MS for 5 months or so
>>>>> and is only a special project coordinator in that state.
>>>>>
>>>> EDIT: ... and is only a special project coordinator in that state for
>>>> purposes of this election. She's seven months shy of qualifying as an
>>>> actual CC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Now, the bylaws state that a candidate must be a coordinator for
>>>>> "whatever divisional structure is appropriate for that state." In MS
>>>>> this structure is a county. Just as in LA it would be a parish.
>>>>> Since Ellen is the SC of MS she has taken it upon herself to qualify
>>>>> her other position as being eligible. Now, the AB seems to not
>>>>> want to
>>>>> do anything about this severe problem, as it is loaded with many of
>>>>> her USGW cronies. (Which is one of the reasons I am running for this
>>>>> seat in the SEMA region. To restore some honor to the leadership of
>>>>
>>>> USGW)
>>>>
>>>>> Do you wish for someone who so easily skirts the rules to represent
>>>>> you? If so, then by all means vote for her. If not, then please vote
>>>>> for one of the other candidates in this race. Of whom I am one, but
>>>>> not the only truly qualified one.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Keith
>>>>>
>>>>>
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