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From: "Karen Wood" <>
Subject: Re: [VACHARLO] Re: William Johnston/Samuel Johnson, et al
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 23:41:24 -0400
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Tony
I think there may have been a William Johnson old enough to be the brother
of Naum,but there was a William who signed as son of Naum, in the Charlotte
Co tax books, so at least I know one William was a son of Naum. Now, the
researcher at Jones said that William Johnson, father of Nancy Johnson m
Thomas Hamlett, was a William who settled in Charlotte Co with father
Naum/Nahom etc. But, I don't know if that was on Turkey Cocke Creek or not.
Thomas Hamlett's mill stood on Turnip Creek, on the western edge of
Charlotte Co VA, near the border with halifax, best I remember. I'm not sure
where Turkey Cocke is and I'm not home to grab the gazateer.

BUT,,the big problem was the number of Johns(t)on's in Charlotte Co, and
whether they're all related or not. I think some moved over from Louisa or
Caroline, as a part of the group that in Bedford/Campbell/Albemarle were all
Quakers, but the one's who moved out were not.

As for the Ballinger's, there appear to be at least two or three groups of
them. There was a group from PA, possibly quakers, moving south, though
Bedford and Pittsylvania Co. Then there were those of Francis Ballinger, who
had children christened in Queen Anne's Parish, Prince George Co, MD,
beleived to be part of the early Huegonot refugees who moved into MD, and
then into the northern neck of VA. Francis was there by 1716, and died
between 1716, and 1730, when his wife, Judith, is listed as a tenant on land
in a suit. So, somehow, they may be connected in France, but lost that
connection on this side of the pond, or so it appears.

I think it would take a Johnson DNA pool to sort that group out. I know
there is some Johnson DNA being gathered, as it's disputed some of the
Lorand Johnson theories of another line (that of Christopher Johnson in
Albemarle Co VA, but several generations earlier, much to many folks dismay)

And on it goes. Keep at it. sorry I'm not home so I'd have a map.

you might go to the deed data pool, online (that title...deed data pool in
quotes will get you there) and run a search on Johns(t)on's. you'll get a
ton, more than likely, but you have to search each county, and the success
depends on which deeds have been submitted by people. There isn't anyone
going around gathering them, except we silly people who chase dead
ancestors. <G>


----- Original Message -----
From: "TJstubby" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:31 PM
Subject: [VACHARLO] Re: William Johnston/Samuel Johnson, et al


> Note of Interest:: William Johnson patented Land in 1779 on Turkey Cocke
> Creek and would have to be 21 years of age:: so born before 1758::: Same
age
> as Naum if I remember Right:: Naum- Naham was on 1785 Census of AMelia CO.
> age would be 21 so born before 1764)
> AC Johnson is a name of interest as it was said by some one I had
> corresponded with several years ago that an AC JOhnson in Kentucky was
> related to my Hudson Johnson. BUt they never got Back to me with any more
> info as they were moving and their Records were packed up.
> Also of Note On tax lists via deeds the Johnson, Hatcher, Wards I have
> found on Cross Deeds all Start in Brunswick::: William and Samuel Johnson
> had to have patented thier land on some Creek ( unknown at this time I am
> still Cross referencing) But in 1748 they are in Lunenburg Co. with 4
other
> Johnson Families two of which are off the Lines Of Michael Johnson as they
> Isaac and Joseph in 1756 or 59, they sell land that was owned my Michael
> Johnson::I have a good list know going on these two Off springs ( but not
on
> what creek they owned Land)>> Back to thoughts:: Next Johnson is A Samuel
> Johnston in 1753 patenented Land on Wards Creek in 1753 in Lunenburg CO.
but
> he doesn't appear on any Lunenburg or Halifax County Tithables:::1753-1770
> These Balingers are going to be related some time as they Were all
> presberterians that Came with the Caldwell group that settled on Cubb
Creek,
> with numerous lands ajoining Wards Creek. they bought over 16,000 acres.On
> first purchase in Lunenburg Co. Va
> I need an early copy of Ameilia County Titahbales and Tax list for the
> Johnsons on it.AS in 1750 All of the Wards and Cubb Creek people from 1748
> Lunenburg Tithables are in AMelia COunty Deeds. IN 1777 Samuel Johnston
> (Nancys ) is now in Pittslyvania County for a short Time until Henry
County
> was formed. The People did not move the County Lines kept changing on
them,
> or they kept joining and rej-oining Counties.
> It is great to know everything we can on this Group of Johnson's I just
> wished there was a Male for a DNA Test. AS I believe this Whole Group
comes
> from the First Two Johnsons Samuel and William on 1748 Tithable list of
> Lunenburg Co.
> as they both would've been born before 1727::(my cross dna on HUdson
> Johnston would match Johnsons of Isaac and Joseph Johnson) Note :::Hudson
> lived with the Only William and James Johnson in Henry County Tax list for
> 1778-1780 this indicates a family relations ip by blood ( either Father
Son
> ,or Brother Brother ,Cousin Cousin etc)
> ::::: PS hopefully by Friday I will have more Locations for
> Johnson-Johnstons in 1740-1780 on where they lived and on What Creeks.Have
> assembled a lot of notes from everone.( Johnson-Johnstonss of Old
Brunswick
> County::: Areas in 1776 Henry,Pittslyvania,Lunenburg,Halifax ,Charlotte,
> South End of Botetort County and Counties formed from them:: This taken
from
> 1738 Brunswick Map sized and placed over a 1776 Va map::: What is funny is
> lines seem to run right down the river or Creek and one family on One side
> &other family branch is on the Other or at the Top of the Creeks that
> almost touch each other:::) Seems like the Johnson-Johnstons loved to
> settle at the top of the Creeks ::Tony
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Karen Wood <>
> To: TJstubby <>; Nancy Denty Breidenthal
> <>
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: William Johnston/Samuel Johnson, et al
>
>
> > Nancy, didn't even think to ask where your Samuel Johns(t)on, d. Henry
Co,
> m
> > Elizabeth Ballinger in Pittsylvania, had come from. Was, at that point,
> > interested in Elizabeth and her father, Joseph. But, now knowing he
isn't
> > part of John's group of Ballinger's, that's finished. So, now I see
> > postings on the Johns(t)on's ! <G>
> >
> > Ok, been chasing one William Johns(t)on (signed both ways, in Charlotte
Co
> > and back in Amelia Co before move. Father said to be one
Nahom/Noam/Nahum,
> > etc, etc, Johnson, found in both Amelia and Charlotte Co VA. a William
> > Johnson was father of Nancy Johnson m Thomas Hamlett, miller on Turnip
> > Creek, 20 Mar 1816 Charlotte Co VA. I come from that couple's daughter,
> > Sarah Hamlett m Francis Hester Jackson, 1854, Charlotte Co VA. Thomas
had
> > about 21 children, but that's another story.
> >
> > So, thought, given the William Johnston you're looking at, you might
want
> > this survey;
> > Charlotte Co # CGBook A p120-121
> > date 20 Oct 1779 4th year of King Charles, Thomas Jefferson to William
> > JOHNSON con A.C. 35 Shill. sterl. re 325a Charlotte Co. both sides
> Bantrees
> > fork of Chesnut Cr. loc -32512 -8272 F127 L0 P255 pt A) at a white oak
on
> > his old line thence new lines ln N30W; 102P; pt B) a white oak ln N19E;
> 44P;
> > Cross Bantrees Fork pt C) a white oak ln S83W; 54P; pt D) a white oak ln
> > N60W; 38P; pt E) a white oak ln N5.5E; 100P; pt F) a hickory ln S75W;
52P;
> > Cross a Br. pt G) a Red Oak ln N87W; 20P; pt H) a white oak ln N11W;
20P;
> pt
> > I) a white oak ln N10E; 44P; pt J) a Gum ln N81.5W; 58P; Cross Main fork
> pt
> > K) pointers ln S37W; 101P; pt L) a Locust on a Ridge ln S69E; 26P; from
a
> > Ridge pt M) pointers ln S16E; 146P; pt N) pointers ln S50E; 26P; pt O) a
> > white oak ln S42E; 98P; pt P) a hickory ln E; 62P; pt Q) pointers ln
S50E;
> > 20P; pt R) pointers in his old line ln N60E; 60P; his old line, Cross sd
> > Bantree fork
> >
> > Source, Deed Data Pool, online.
> >
> > Other info sitting in a pile, amongst more;
> > Fron Lewis Averett Research (Jones Memorial Library) contracted by Neil
> > Brown of Alaska and sent to me in 2001
> >
> > A search for information on William Johnson included the land records
for
> > Amelia and Charlotte Co VA in 1848. John N Johnson (Charlotte Co) owned
90
> > acres on Turkey Cock Creek. Also listed inthe same vicintiy on Turkey
Cock
> > Creek were Nancy Johnson and Elizabeth M Johnson. The 40 acres of Nancy
> was
> > deeded to her for her lifetime only. the others were in fee simple. It
was
> > common practice for a man to leave his wife property for ife use after
> which
> > it was sold or divided among his children or hiers.
> >
> > Tracking the and taxes backward from 1849 the researcher found that
there
> > was a William Johnson who had acreage on Turkey Cock Creek. The
assumption
> > is made her that this is John's father. Willam. This William Johnson is
> one
> > of several in Charlotte Co land taxes so the clerk has assigned a note
for
> > each to keep them separated. This William is listed as the son of Naum
> > Johnson. This same Naum aslo held land on Turkey Cock Creek as seen in
the
> > land taxes of Charlotte Co VA for 1820
> > The US census for Charlotte Co VA in 1810 and 1820 both lise a
Nohan/Maum
> > Johnson. The 1820 census shows there was a male 16-26 years of age i, 1
> male
> > 45 and over. There was 1 female under 10 years of age, 1 female 16-26
and
> 1
> > female over 34. This shows that Naum was born before 1766 (see note 5)
as
> > wwas the older female who may have been his wife, though niether name
nor
> > status is given in this census.
> > Naum Johnson receved a pension for service in the REvolutionary War.
This
> > abstsract of his service record says he was born Nov 1750 in AMelia Co
VA
> > where he also enlisted. He applied for a pension on 3 Spe 1823 in
> Charlotte
> > Co vA at the age of 82 years. He is also listed among Amelia Co VA
> > militiamen
> > A search of Amelia Co marriage records and and early deeds and wills
> turned
> > up no mention of a Naum /Nahum/Moham Johnson
> > The land tax records for Charlotte Co VA as well as the index to deeds
> show
> > that Naum Johnson bought land there first in 1807. He shows up on the
land
> > taxes in 1809 including a note that he bought the land from Abrham St.
> John
> > as is also indicated in the index to county deeds.
> >
> > 1844 county taxes William Johnson Sr 137 acres Turkey Cock Creek
> >
> > Charlotte Co Rich Indeed, constable...Constable, William Johnson 1798
and
> > 1803, though may or may not be our William Johnson
> >
> >
> > If any of this sounds like your William Johnston, let me know. This
> William
> > is a pain. I think he's William who may have married the widow, Nancy
> > Brewer, in1803 in Charlotte, though his first wife, Susan _ was the
mother
> > of my Nancy Johns(t)on Hamlett.
> >
> > Just adding info.
> >
> > Karen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "TJstubby" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:12 PM
> > Subject: [VACHARLO] Henry County info ( Part 2)
> >
> >
> > > Following info received from Nancy Denty Briedenthal researcher
> > >
> > > Relatives of Her Samuel Johnston in Henry Co.Va and Pittsylvania Co.Va
> > Samuel was a farmer and blacksmith, and wagon Maker, born 1753 he
married
> > Elizabeth Ballenger::June 26 1776 Pittsylvania Co.Va and died abt Feb 11
> > 1833 Limestone Al. Samuel had a brother James Johnston who also lived in
> > HEnry Co.Va:: Her note is there two James Johnson in Henry Co?::James
> > Johnston was born abt 1757 in Lunenburg Co.Va maried Joyce Wells on AUg
24
> > 1790 and died Apriil 30 1840 in Henry Co.Va James fought in the Rev.
War::
> > Borh James and Samuel resided on Turkey Cock Creek in Henry Co. Samuel
> also
> > owned land on Leatherwood Creek, an on Baretree ( Bantree) FOrk of
> Chestnut
> > Creek::
> > > 1780::Jacob Johnson::James Johnson:: WIlliam and Hudson Johnson in one
> > Home
> > > 1779 Tax list of Henry Co. Johnsons::: William ::: Hudson (treble tax)
> > Samuel Johnson::Noble Johnson:: Jacob Johnson (Treble Tax)
> > > 1778::William Johnson:::James Johnson and Hudson in one house:Samuel
> > JOhnson
> > > Notes on above::: James Johnson that lived with Hudson was born 1757
or
> > Before:::: Note Hudsons WIfe Agness born 1740-1750 ( Per Dickson
> CO.Census)
> > ::::No other James Johnson on Henry Co.Census
> > >
> > > Note from Mary Holland researcher
> > > Abstract of Pittsylvania County Wills 1767-1820
> > > Moses Johnson had two sons mentioned ::Ather and Obediah will proved
> June
> > 18 1782
> > > Archibald Johnston sons James::: Wm:::Samuel::Obediah:: proved Sept 15
> > 1788
> > >
> > > Henry Co Va List of Surveys 1779-1780
> > > Samuel Johnston:: Leatherwood Creek 350 acres
> > > Samuel Johnston 272 acre Leatherwood Creek
> > > Moses Johnson unk location
> > >
> > > Abstract of Deeds Henry Co. 2784-2792
> > > June 1784 John Shields of Pittsylvania Co. to sell land in Henry Co.
to
> > Samuel Johnston both sides of Turkey Creek
> > > March 1785 SAmuel JOhnston sells to Francis Hill of Prince Edward Co.
> land
> > on both sides of Baretree Creek of Chestnut Creek
> > > APril 1789 Samuel Johnson seels to William Lauerence 100 acres on both
> > side of Turkey Cocke Creek
> > > July 1792 Samuel Johnston sells land to Samuel HUghes 200 acres on
> Turkey
> > Cock Creek
> > >
> > > NOw more Notes From Nancy Dnety Briedenthal
> > > Re: Pesky Johnston in Charlotte Co.Va
> > > On March 1787 those Johnstons enumurated were Phillip nas Phillip
> > JOhnston and Reubin Johnson
> > > Marc 22 1787:: Rev. Thomas Johnston
> > > March 27 Josias and Sias Johnston
> > > Marc 24::Nelson Johnston
> > > Mar 28 William Johnston
> > > APril 2 James Johnston and Reubin Johnston
> > > May 2nd::Jas Johnston,Samuel Johnston,WIlliam Johnston along with the
> > Following Drury Burge::Paschal Greenhill::George Hannah (his estate)
John
> > Hannah::Nathan Lawson::Drury Scott::and Darby Whitlow::
> > > May 30 James Johnston Sr. along with the Following::David
Addams,James
> > Addams::Stephen Bedford::Jas Daniel::Jas davis::David Maddox::Jas
> > Middleton::Robt Morgan::William and WIlliamson Price::William Price
> Jr::Robt
> > Rives::Oliver Saller::Ann B.Tankersly and Thomas WHite
> > > May 9 John H.Johnston
> > >
> > > Untitled
> >
Document:::http://:www.fortunecity.com/bally/minogues/136/johnsonland.html
> > > Oct 20 1779 William Johnson both sides of Bantrees Creek
> > > Note other Johnson-Johnstons deed mentioned at this site
> > >
> > >
> > >
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