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Subject: [WALL] Re: Fw: Howell WALL of North Carolina, father of Wm. Benj. WALL - Part 1
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 14:19:33 EDT
I sent this yesterday morning and apparently it didn't go through. Maybe it
was too long. I'll break it up into two posts.
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<<Subject: Howell WALL of North Carolina, father of Wm. Benj. WALL - how much
known?
I have a William Benjamin WALL, born in Amite County, Mississippi about 1809.
I also have,
as his father, Howell WALL, born in North Carolina, married in 1788, and a
Rebecca VERNON
as Wm. B.'s mother.
I also have a Howel WALL as the father of Howell WALL.
Here's my qustion: Have I got two people? or one?
Howell WALL has two "birthdates", 1732 and 1756, and not deathdate.
Howell has no date of birth or death.
And the next WALL in sequence, Joseph WALL, is listed as having died
in 1756.
Can anyone helpo with these confusing generations?
And, is there any information on the family of Rebecca VERNON?
Thank you in advance,
Kelly Paul Graham>>
Hi Kelly,
Here are the first two generations for the first Howell Wall. [second gen in
next post] They are two different people. More research needs to be done on
the earlier one. I am not entirely satisfied that the relationship has been
proven yet. I hope this helps you some.
Eleanor Colson
Descendants of Howell Elijah Wall
Generation No. 1
1. Howell Elijah11 Wall (Joseph10, Joshua9, Thomas8, James7, Thomas6,
Lawrence5, William4, Richard3, Evan2, Evan1) was born 1732 in Beaufort
County, North Carolina (Source: Vol. 3, History of Amite Co, Casey, p. 585;
Wall & Travis Families of Amite Co, MS. REF: Travis Families & Allies by
Gen. Robt. J. Travis, 1954.), and died 17 January 1781 in Battle of Cowpens,
Spartanburg District, South Carolina. He married Elizabeth Unknown ?.
Notes for Howell Elijah Wall:
Researcher Warren Wall has Howell married to an Elizabeth HARTLEY. I have
not been able to verify this as of yet. He also has Drury as a son of
Howell. This camp seems to be equally divided. Some think that he was a son
and brother to Rev. Howell WALL. Many think he was not. I do believe that
he was a close relative though. He did witness the will of Rev. Howell WALL
and he was living right next to him in Beaufort Dist, SC in 1800.
1762 Pitt Co, NC Tax List: (Pitt Co. formed from Beaufort Co, NC in 1760)
Joseph WALL, constable 1 white, 1 total
Elizabeth WALL 1 white, 1 slave, 2 total
Howell WALL 1 white, 1 total
1763 Pitt Co, NC Tax List:
Joseph WALL, Constable; Thomas Cambell 2
Howell WALL 1
1764 Pitt Co, NC Early Census Index:
Howell WALL
1778 Beaufort Dist, SC Colonial Census:
Howell WALL
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May 1779 - Rev. War claim of Howell WALL
Mr. Howell WALL. His account of a horse lost in Militia Service of 46
dinners for Militia Horsemen in May 1779. 19 Pounds, One Shilling, Seven
Pences, Three farthings Sterling. Copy of the appraisement of the above
horse on the back of the certificate . . . (can't read signature)
24 May 1785 - Indent Certificate issued to Howell WALL
South Carolina. Pursuant to an Act of the GENERAL ASSEMBLY, passed the 16th
of March, 1783, We, the COMMISSIONERS of the TREASURY, have this Day
delivered to Mr. Howell WALL (Hall scratched out and Wall written in same
signature) this our INDENTED CERTIFICATE, for the Sum of Nineteen pounds one
Shilling and seven pence three farthings Sterling a Horse lost in Militia
Service and duty as a Horseman in the Militia . . . audited. the said Howell
WALL, his Executors, Administrators, or Assigns, will be entitle to receive
from this Office the Sum of One pound Six Shillings & Eight pence on demand
One Year's Interest on the principal Sum of Nineteen pounds One Shilling and
Seven pence and the like Interest anually Pres.(?) Genr. Assembly 1783. The
said Howell WALL his Executors, Administrators or Assigns, will be entitle
also to receive, and shall be paid, if demanded, the principal Sum of
Nineteen pounds one Shilling and Seven pence 3/4 on the Twenty fourth May
1787 And the said Howell Wall his Executors, Administrators or Assigns, may
make any Purchases at any Publice Sales of Confiscated Property, (except such
as shall be ordered by the Legislature for Special Purposes;) and this INDENT
shall be received in Payment.
For the true Performance of the several Payments in Manner above-mentioned,
the PUBLIC TREASURY is made liable, and the FAITH of the STATE pledged by the
aforsaid ACT.
GIVEN under our Hands at the TREASURY-OFFICE, in CHARLESTON, the Twenty
fourth Day of May One Thousand Seven Hundred and Eighty-five.
(Can't read signature, Commissioners of the Treasury - This is crossed out)
19.1.7 3/4 Principal
1.6.8 Annual Interest
********Note - the above indent certificate has a constant use of the letter
f for s. I went ahead and changed it to s.
No. 497 Book 2
21 Dec 1791, Charleston - Pay this . . . order to Mr. Charles Johnston(?)
Signed, Richard Bostick. *********** I can't read this page very well.
8 March 1792 - Note identifying Elisha WALL as the admin. of the estate of
Howell WALL signed by Jos. Brailsford (Very hard to read) (On the op of the
page from Kathy Niemeyer above the note lists 46 Dinners with an amount.
Underneath is the amount for the lost horse. Columns are added up and come
to 19.1.7 3/4.)
Note
Sir-
I . . . acquaint you that Mr. Elisha Wall is the administrator to the Estate
of Mr. Howell Wall deceased . . . you may deliver to Mr. ? Signed Jos
Brailsford
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There seems to be some confusion on the father of Rev. Howell WALL. In an
article on Judge William B. WALL in the "Encyclopedia of the New West", p.
246: Rev. Howell WALL' s father is listed as Elijah WALL - of Welsh descent.
He supposedly emigrated from Wales to Edgefield district, SC, before the
Revolution, and was killed at the Battle of Cowpens, his dwelling burned and
other property burned and destroyed by the British. He had three sons
according to this article, Elijah, Elisha, and Howell all whom were in the
colonial army with him. I have found evidence of Elisha and Howell, but not
Elijah. Could he be who the Elizabeth Wall was married to that is found on
the 1790 Beaufort District, SC census? Or is Elizabeth the widow of Elijah
WALL, SR (or Howell WALL). I have found only evidence of an older Howell
WALL who was on the 1778 Beaufort Dist, SC Colonial Census. Possibly his
name was Howell Elijah WALL.
Children of Howell Wall and Elizabeth ? are:
+ 2 i. Elisha12 Wall, born Bet. 1755 - 1774.
+ 3 ii. Rev. Howell Wall, Sr., born Abt. 1765 in Beufort District, South
Carolina; died 21 September 1822 in Amite County, Mississippi.
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