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From: "Earl Day" <>
Subject: Re: Re: [WCKY] Haycraft
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:59:21 -0400
References: <20030827.154420.-339279.3.bwebb9@juno.com>


I checked with the receptionist at Severns Valley and all the records were
damaged when a basement flooded several years ago. (I don't remember the
date of the flood)

Earl Day
Elizabethtown, KY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert L Webb" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [WCKY] Haycraft


> Part of Goshen church records are on-line at:
>
> ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/greene/church/gosh0001.txt
>
> and
>
> ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/greene/church/gosh0002.txt
>
> I don't know the answer regarding Severns Valley records. But I from
> other sources I have the following on our website:
> Severns Valley Church, near Elizabethtown, was organized June 18, 1781,
> (under a green sugar tree), and was one of the churches which organized
> the Salem Association at Cox's Creek Church in October 1785. Severns
> Valley Church was probably the first Baptist church organized in what is
> now the State of Kentucky. Spencer's History of the Baptists in Kentucky
> (quoting another source) states that the church was organized with
> eighteen charter members, among whom were Jacob Vanmeter Sr., Letty
> Vanmeter, Jacob Vanmeter (their son), Bennam Shaw, Jacob Dye, Hannah Dye,
> and three colored servants of Jacob Vanmeter Sr. (Mark, Bambo, and
> Dinah). It is also said that John Gerrard and Thomas Helm were probably
> also in the constitution. Among the early members are the names of many
> prominent settlers, and distinguished citizens, including John LaRue,
> Robert Hodgen, and Gen. Duff Green. Elders Joseph Barnett and John
> Whitaker were probably both in the presbytery which organized this
> church.
> End quote.
> Abraham and Sarah Vanmeter (parents of Isaac Vanmeter) and Martin
> Utterback, were members of Concord Church in Grayson County. Isaac was
> also a member of Sinking Creek church in Breckingridge Co. for a short
> time. I don't know about records on these either.
>
> Elder Robert Webb
>
>
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:41:37 -0700 (PDT) candywagner
> <> writes:
> > My Thomas family was closely allied with these families, and I have
> > been
> > searching for any church records which name them, either in PA or
> > KY. Would
> > you happen to have any copies or access to the Goshen or Severns
> > Valley
> > records? I found many mentions of them in both contexts, and then
> > they
> > appear to have converted to Methodist Episcopal in Grayson Co. at
> > some
> > point.
> > Candy
> >
> > >On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:21:29 -0500 Robert L Webb <>
> > wrote.
> > >Several of the Vanmeters (or Van Meter's) who were mentioned in
> > this
> > >thread, were charter members of the Goshen Baptist Church in Greene
> > Co.,
> > >Pennsylvania, and John Garrard was also a member there. The
> > Vanmeters and
> > >John Gerrard also then appear in 1781 in Hardin county Kentucky,
> > as
> > >charter members or very early members of Severns Valley Baptist
> > church,
> > >which if I remember correctly, was the first Baptist church
> > organized in
> > >Kentucky. Isaac Newton Vanmeter moved from Kentucky, to Macomb,
> > >Illinois, in about 1855, and was a Baptist minister (of the
> > Primitive or
> > >Hardshell brand) for many years in Illinois. His writings have
> > been
> > >extracted, including his account of his own life which mentions
> > his
> > >parents, etc. Probably all of you already know this, but just
> > thought I
> > >would toss it in. I am fairly sure I have seen the Haycraft family
> > name
> > >(as well as Vanmeter) in Baptist records in Illinois.
> > >
> > >Elder Robert Webb
> > >
> > >http://www.carthage.lib.il.us/community/churches/primbap/pbl.html
> > >
> > >
> > >On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:23:32 -0500 "Darrell Cooper"
> > ><> writes:
> > >> I too, have to add this:
> > >> I have what Candy wrote plus, my 5 G Grandfather was John "Van
> > >> Tress"
> > >> Vertrees, Capt.
> > >> His second wife was Elizabeth Van Meter, sister of Margaret Van
> > >> Meter, who
> > >> married
> > >> Samuel Haycraft, Sr. NOTE! My records show this different
> > spelling
> > >> of Van
> > >> Meter. Does
> > >> anyone know which is correct?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >From: "Candy" <>
> > >> >To:
> > >> >Subject: RE: [WCKY] Haycraft
> > >> >Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:02:44 -0400
> > >> >
> > >> >Cannot resist adding what I have in my files on these gentlemen,
> > as
> > >> my
> > >> >Thomas and Hardin families were part of the settlements
> > described
> > >> by
> > >> >Battle,
> > >> >Perrin. I have Samuel Haycraft's father as James Haycraft, from
> >
> > >> Haycraft's
> > >> >History of Elizabethtown, Kentucky, written by the gentleman
> > >> himself. This
> > >> >is best viewed full screen or HTML:
> > >> >1 Jacob Vanmeter
> > >> >.. Letitia Strode
> > >> >..... 2 Margaret Vanmeter
> > >> >......... Samuel Haycraft b: September 11,
> >
> > >> 1752 m:
> > >> >Bef. 1779 in Pittsburgh, PA d: October 12, 1823
> > >> >............ 3 Samuel Haycraft b: August 14, 1795 in
> > >> >Elizabethtown,
> > >> >KY d: December 22, 1878
> > >> >................ Sarah Brown Helm
> > m:
> > >> October
> > >> >29, 1818 d: August 14, 1878
> > >> >..... 2 Susan Vanmeter b: July 02, 1750
> > >> >......... Reverand John Garard m: in
> > >> Southwestern
> > >> >Pennsylvania d: May 1782 in Kentucky
> > >> >............ 3 Hetty (Mehatebal) Garard b: 1769
> >
> > >> d:
> > >> >October 17, 1839
> > >> >................ Hardin Thomas b: 1766 in
> > >> Fredrick, VA m:
> > >> >February 24, 1789 in Nelson Co, Kentucky d: May 1837 in
> > >> Elizabethtown,
> > >> >KY
> > >> >............ 3 Sarah Garard
> > >> >............ 3 Margaret "Peggy" Garard b: July 27,
> > 1774
> > >> >d: August 13, 1832
> > >> >................ Samuel Goodin m: March
> > 28,
> > >> 1793
> > >> >in
> > >> >Hardin County, Ky
> > >> >............ 3 Letitia Garard b: January 02, 1776
> >
> > >> d:
> > >> >September 21, 1856
> > >> >
> > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > >> >From: [mailto:]
> > >> >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:56 PM
> > >> >To:
> > >> >Subject: [WCKY] Haycraft
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >According to Kentucky Genealogy and Biography, by Battle, Perrin
> >
> > >> and
> > >> >Kniffin,
> > >> >Samuel Haycraft came to what is now Hardin County, settling
> > there
> > >> along
> > >> >with
> > >> >Thomas Helm and Andrew Hines. The three of them built forts
> > >> situated to
> > >> >support each other (in case of indian attack). It says,
> > quoting,
> > >> Haycraft
> > >> >built a
> > >> >fort or block-house on the hill above the Cave spring. Other
> > >> settlers were
> > >> >Jacob Vanmetre, Sr., Jacob Vanmetre, Jr., Rev. John Garrard,
> > David
> > >> Hinton,
> > >> >Nicholas Miller, John Vertrees, Miles Hart, Thomas, Brown,
> > Freeman,
> > >> Shaw
> > >> >and
> > >> >several others. It mentions Christopher Bush, one of whose
> > >> daughters
> > >> >became
> > >> >the
> > >> >second wife of Thomas Lincoln. One of Helm's descendants became
> >
> > >> governor.
> > >> >This
> > >> >is all the book says about the Haycrafts. I think the book was
> > a
> > >> vanity
> > >> >book,
> > >> >and people paid to get their names in it.
> > >> >Peggy Guinn Bowen
> > >> >
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