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From: Susan J Gall <>
Subject: Re: [WHITAKER] 1904 notebook...
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:44:01 -0800


Claudia,

Thanks for sharing this information. It's certainly possible - some
indication of who this Robert, son of Robert's wife was would certainly
help. Our Robert died 1788 with wife Mary. Only two known sons or two
that came to NC as grown men were William and Jonathan, b. 1750 and 1763
respectively. These names are used often in their own children and on
down the line - it is possible that the Jonathan came in from the
mother's side. The naming patterns don't give us much help on making a
match - William's children were Isaac, Abraham, Jonathan (II - my
ancestor), William David, Edmund, Nancy, Betsy, Sarah "Sally",
Elizabeth, Lydia, Rebecca and Mary "Polly" and Jonathan (I)'s children
were Josiah, Elisha, Mary, William, Jordan, Jesse, Robert, John, Judy,
Nancy, Hannah and Betsy - and except for Robert, Sarah and Elizabeth none
of the Robert who died in 1753 in Prince George's Co.
I appreciate your sending this and will keep it in mind as I search
and see if I can make a connection. Thanks!!

Susan

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 12:04:26 -0500 "Claudia Whitaker"
<> writes:
> Dear Susan and David.
>
> I have been following your search for a Robert & Mary Whitaker from
> MD that
> went to Surry Co. NC.
>
> My line is the Mark of MD and son Thomas of MD and Surry Co. NC.
>
> In doing my research I found that Thomas Whitaker m. Mary Wilson d/o
> of
> Thomas Wilson. In going back it includes the names of Kent,
> Clagett,
> Wadsworth, Magruder, Bearshears, Beall and others.
>
> These families are from Calvert, Charles and Prince George's
> Counties.
> This part of Prince George's County is in the southern part of
> Maryland
> along the Patuxent River.
>
> A Robert Whitaker married Elizabeth Magruder. Robert was a
> surveyor
> and was appraiser on several wills. He was referred to as Mr.
> Whitaker. Do
> not know his parents.from list of children it could be
> William & Elizabeth..or.. Henry, as there was a Henry Whitaker who
> died in
> late 1600's in Dorchester Co., and Robert had a son Henry.
>
> Following are Alexander Magruder's will and Robert Whitaker's that
> tie them
> together:
>
> MAGRUDER, ALEXANDER, Prince George's Co. 4 Feb, 1739/40
> 20 May, 1746
> To wife SUSSANNAH MAGRUDER, the plantation I now dwell upon.
> To dau. ELIZABETH WHITEAKER, 1 slave.
> To ROBERT WHITAKER and wife ELIZABETH, the southermost half of
> a lott of land.
> To dau. SARAH BUTLER, 1 slave.
> To son, HEZEKIAH MAGRUDER, 180 A. pt. of "Jordan," 80A.
> "Quicksale" formerly belonging to William Collins.
> To son ALEXANDER MAGRUDER, remaining pt. of my land, and after
> decease of my wife, the plantation that I now live on to him
> and hrs. that is divided bet. my bro. NATHANIEL MAGRUDER,
> late
> dec'd.
> Mentions bro. Nathaniel Magruder and his 2 sons George and
> Alexander Magruder to equally divided bet. the 2 sons.
> Appoint my loving wife Susannah Magruder, extx.
> Wit: Samuel Taylor, James Truman. 24. 372
> [SOURCE: FTM, CD206 Genealogical Recors: Maryland Probate Records,
> Calendar
> of Wills, Vol 9, 1744-1749 page: 67].
> _________________________________________
>
> WHITAKER, ROBERT, Prince George's Co. - - - - -
> 27 Jun, 1753
> Personal estate to my 7 youngest children: Susannah, Elizabeth,
> Susan, Henry, Sarah, Priscilla and Alexander.
> To 2 eld. son, William and Robert, all the tract I dwell on,
> to be equally divided bet. them, the sd. Wm. and Robert
> Whitaker, by my friends, Thomas Gantt, Alexander Magruder and
> Thomas Gantt, Jr.
> Wit: Ruth Orme, Ann Belt, Jo Belt, Jr. 28. 499
> [SOURCE: FTM, CD206 Genealogical Records: Maryland Probate
> Records,
> Calendar of Wills, Vol 10, 1748-1753 page: 271].
> _________________________________________________
>
> ROBERT WHITTAKER 56.29 PG f458.5.3 Sep 12 1753 Nov 28 1753
> (also Robert Whitaker
> Appraisers: William Beall, Jr., Samuel White.
> Creditors: James Wardrop, Hancock Lee for self and company.
> Next of Kin: William Whitaker, Robert Whitaker.
> Executrix: Mrs. Elisabeth Whitaker.
> [SOURCE: FTM, CD206 Genealogical Records: Maryland Probate
> Records,
> Prerogative Court Abstracts, 1751-1756 page: 58
> ________________________________________
>
> ROBERT WHITAKER 2.20 D PG f110.17.10 Jan 30 1756
> Distribution to: Widow (unnamed). Residue to children:
> William, Robert, Susannah, Elisabeth, Susan, Henry, Sarah,
> Alexander, Russell.
> Executrix: Elisabeth Whitaker.
> [SOURCE: FTM, CD206 Genealogical Records: Maryland Probate
> Records,
> Prerogative Court Abstracts, 1755-1763 page: 6
> ________________________________________________
>
> It seems reasonable that the above Robert, s/o Mr. Robert &
> Elisabeth
> Whitaker could be the one you are searching for.
>
> Two of the sons, Henry & William died in Prince George's County,
> MD.
> William in 1757 & Henry in 1773. Wm. with no family. Not sure of
> Henry.
>
> Hope this is of some help to you. If not its another MD Whitaker
> family to
> confuse us all.
>
> Claudia Whitaker <>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [WHITAKER] 1904 notebook...
>
>
> > David,
> >
> > I'm afraid it is this very book that was used by Hester
> Jackson
> > without fully checking out the information contained in it.
> Robert and
> > Mary of Cecil Co. MD are indeed from the line of Whitakers that
> included
> > the Parkers and Bannisters and Lady Beconsawe who was beheaded
> etc.
> > Unfortunately it has also been proved that this is definitely NOT
> the
> > Robert and Mary who came to Surry Co. NC - there is proof beyond
> a
> > showadoe\w of a doubt that the Robert of that line died and had a
> Will
> > proved many years before our Robert died and that Robert died in
> > Maryland, having never come to NC. That line is indeed proven.
> > However we haven't a clue as to who our Robert is....It is
> possible
> > that he was a cousin to this same line of course - because there
> was a
> > Thomas Whitaker of that line that came down to Surry Co. NC and
> lived
> > nearby....but there are no land deeds, or other documents that
> indicate
> > that they had any relationship with each other, so it is equally
> likely
> > that they were unrelated. This Thomas I recall had a connection
> to a
> > Mark Whitaker and someone just recently posted some information on
> this
> > list about him. As far as I can tell at this point they are
> unrelated.
> > Also there was a William Whitaker who came to Rowan Co. - in
> the area
> > which became Davidson Co. which is some distance to the area of
> > Surry/Yadkin that Robert's wife Mary lived with sons Jonathan (I)
> and
> > William. This William is part of the Joshua/Parker/Bannisters
> etc. line
> > and also doesn't seem to be related to our Robert & Mary.
> > I didn't want to believe this either but I have seen the Will
> and
> > Robert of Cecil Co. MD is verified as the line from the
> Joshua/Parkers
> > etc. of Whitakers. This is definitely NOT our Robert. So we know
> who he
> > is NOT - we just don't know who he was. I know it is
> disappointing - I
> > didn't want to believe it either - but there is no question that
> the
> > Robert of that line is NOT ours....
> >
> > Susan Gall
> > Winston-Salem NC
> > On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:06:39 -0600 David Whitaker
> <>
> > writes:
> > > Good morning, Susan,
> > >
> > > I am now in B'ham doing the grandfather bit.
> > >
> > > You and I have an EM dated May 20, 2002 from Jim Drew that goes
> into
> > > the
> > > Robert question, and Jim's ideas on this subject. Since there is
> a
> > > question about who Robert is or where he came from, let me
> share
> > > the
> > > background on the 1904 notebook I have.
> > >
> > > Twenty-five years ago I found this book in belongings of my
> > > great-grandfather, K.D.S.Whitaker. The book had a date 1904,
> the
> > > same
> > > year that his father, King David, died.
> > >
> > > Then, time did not permit me getting into my genealogy but I
> knew of
> > > a
> > > person who was working this line. I sent her a copy and she
> > > apparently
> > > sent a copy to Hester Jackson. I didn't know she existed or
> that
> > > this
> > > had happened until about two years ago. Mrs. Jackson
> undoubtedly
> > > felt
> > > there was a connection and included it in her book. When she
> > > connected
> > > the dots she tied Jane Bannister Parker into the picture. I've
> > > talked
> > > to Dan Jackson about this and he's inclined to leave things as
> they
> > > are
> > > until he gets better information. I agree with his thinking.
> > >
> > > If you go back and read those notes again you will find that
> Jane
> > > Parker
> > > was not mentioned but a person named Judy Caudle was.
> > >
> > > Susan, since I am not good at research as many are I do not
> know
> > > how
> > > significant this is. I know that all the names on this 1904
> list
> > > have
> > > proved out. Possibly there is a clue here. I know all the
> rocks
> > > are
> > > being looked under. I consider this another rock.
> > >
> > > Now the question of why was a poor old dirt farmer (K.D.S.W.)
> back
> > > a
> > > hundred years ago interested in his genealogy? The answer
> > > apparently
> > > has to do with an original letter dated 1908 and in my
> possession.
> > > This
> > > four page letter is from a lawyer in Philadelphia to K.D.S.W.
> and is
> > > a
> > > status report on a claim being filed against the Bank of England
> by
> > > the
> > > Whitaker heirs to this fortune. If you are not aware of this
> > > situation
> > > I can send you what I have on it. So... his interest in
> genealogy
> > > had
> > > to do with MONEY. Also he had the advantage of being able to
> glean
> > > information from his father and other relatives, including his
> > > grandfather, Jordan, the grandson of Robert and the son of
> > > Jonathan(I).
> > > K.D.S.W. was twenty-four when his grandfather, Jordan died in
> 1886
> > > in
> > > Surry County, N.C. My point here, Susan, is that K.D.S.W. had
> good
> > > opportunity to get it right.
> > >
> > > In my on genealogy report I have all the disclaimers regarding
> > > Robert
> > > and those of that time period because things are so fuzzy. If
> you
> > > ever
> > > solve some of this I hope you share it with me. I will be glad
> to
> > > share
> > > my genealogy report with you or anyone else who might be
> interested
> > > in
> > > this line.
> > >
> > > I'm just another Whitaker trying to get it right.
> > >
> > >
> > > David Grant Whitaker
> > > Kemah, Texas
> > >
> > > I
> > >
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