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From: "Robert L. Ward" <>
Subject: Re: Family crests????
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 21:01:45


At 02:33 PM 12/2/97 +0000, you wrote:
>WRG,
>My husband photocopied two pages out of a book at our local library
>(Bellevue, WA) on family crests. Don't scream at me, he did *not*
>even write down the names of the books. I could always go and look
>them up...
>
>but...can someone explain to me what all this means?
>
>first book:
>
>page 809
>Whitney. --local 'of Whitney,' a parish in co. Hereford. It is quite
>clear that co. Hereford is the chief home of this family.
>Nevertheless Witney, the formerly well-known town in co. Oxford, must
>have swelled the total.

Description of the family's name and its origin.

>John de Witteneye, co. Suff., 1273. A.

A reference to a coat of arms for a certain John de WITTENEYE, recorded in
1273 in County Suffolk.

>Thomas de Whytene, co. Notts, ibid.

A coat of arms for a Thomas de WHYTENE, recorded 1273 in County Nottingham.

>Robert de Wyttenye, co. Hereford, Hen. III-Edw. I. K.

A coat of arms for Robert de WYTTENYE, County Hereford, during the reigns of
Kings Henry III and Edward I.

>1604 Henry Whitney, co. Heref.: Reg. Univ. Oxf. vol. ii. pt. ii. p.
>275

Henry WHITNEY of County Hereford, 1604, listed in the Register of the
University of Oxford, volume ii, part ii, page 275.

>1605 Thomas Whitney, co. Heref.: ibid. p. 285

Thomas WHITNEY of County Hereford, 1605, listed in the Register of the
University of Oxford, volume ii, part ii, page 285.

>1676 George Whitney and Sarah Todd: Marriage Alleg. (Canterbury), ii
>169.

George WHITNEY and Sarah TODD, marriage allegation recorded in 1676 at
Canterbury, volume ii, page 169.

>London, 8; MDB (co. Hereford), I; Philadelphis, 28; Boston (U.S.), 216

I haven't the faintest about these. Probably there was in the book a key
to the abbreviations used which would be useful.

>second book:
>page 207
>
>(Has pictures of crests - or maybe these are armours???)
>
>Witney, Sir Eustace de, of Cheshire-- (E.II. Roll) bore paly (6) or
>and gules, a chief vair; Parliamentary Roll.

Sir Eustace de WITNEY of Cheshire, Roll of Arms, reign of King Edward II,
six vertical bars alternating gold and red, with the top quarter of the
shield colored with a stylized kind of fur. This was from a roll of arms
for Members of Parliament (i.e., feudal barons in the House of Lords).

>Witney, Eustace and Robert De Whitneye --(H. III. Roll) bore, axure, a
>cross counter-compony or and gules. (F.) St. George and Surrey Rolls;
>argent and gules in Arden Roll.

Eustace WITNEY and Robert de WHTINEYE, Roll of Arms, reign of King Henry III,
a blue shield, with an X-shaped cross in red and gold. From the St. George
and Surrey Rolls of Arms. Gold replaced by silver in the Arden Roll of Arms.

>....and then a handwritten scrolled name under an armour that looks to
>say Eustafe d. Witeneie

I'm not sure that this is a lot of valuable genealogical information, but
it does give several coats of arms and names of people living in medieval
times who were members of the de WHITNEY families of Herefordshire and
Cheshire.

Regards,

Robert

Robert L. Ward

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