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From: Tim Doyle <>
Subject: Re: [WHITNEY-L] WRG 2004 Data Gathering - QuickBase Invitation
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:20:26 -0500 (CDT)
In-Reply-To: <3EE890E9.6030109@erols.com>


QuickBase, along with all other Intuit websites, provides a full online
disclosure of its privacy policies. For the QuickBase website, you can
find that information by going to http://www.quickbase.com and selecting
the Privacy Statement link at the bottom. Being that I work for Intuit, I
use QuickBase every day. I have never had any popups or spam whatsoever,
nor have I heard of anything like this whatsoever. Being that Intuit deals
with financial and tax-related information, it is very careful about how
it deals with information such as this so as not to affect the confidence
of its customers. Note that I am speaking on my own behalf, and not as a
representative of Intuit here. I hope this helps.

Tim Doyle


On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Timothy F. Whitney wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am the manager/owner/administrator of the database I created on
> Quickbase and I also generated the invitation.
>
> 1st, I pay out of my own pocket for this service as I also use it for my
> Class Reunion databases. I don't believe $15/month or $180/year is a
> giveaway or subsidized price. I don't get popup banners and I have not
> seen any SPAM associated with my use of Quickbase.
>
> 2nd, I have used this Intuit service for over 2 years and have not heard
> of anyone having the type of problems/issues you mentioned. The only
> concern I have currently with the new database I created is that I had
> to open it to the Public - as I do not have specific email addresses for
> individual invitations.
>
> 3rd, I have not intentions of selling this data or keeping it after it
> has been collected and provided to the three volunteers trying to plan
> the 2004 Reunion.
>
> 4th, I believe two invitations were sent, one more general or automated
> by the Quickbase site and the other with more specific text that I
> added. Yes, Quickbase does invite folks to create a Username. However
> I have not seen any other "selling" tactic used by them.
>
> Last, I have no idea how large the WRG is and only wanted to help get
> the 2004 Reunion in the DC area going as I was not able to attend last
> year's Reunion.
>
> Anything one does on the WWW is subject to the issues you raised -
> including simple email. If you believe Quickbase is guilty of any of
> the issues you mentioned - please perform some research and provide me
> with facts and I will get them addressed by Intuit - ASAP.
>
> In closing, I am not nor do I ever intend to be a "commercial
> interloper" attempting to facilitate communications between WRG
> members. I am simply using a tool to help WRG members voice their
> preferences in a way that will help us all have a wonderful Reunion in
> 2004. In advance, if my attempt to help get the 2004 Reunion off the
> ground has offended you - I apologize - as this was certainly not my
> intention.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Whitney
> 540-349-1027
>
>
>
> White Dove wrote:
>
> >Personally, I would not go anywhere near that 'database', and least of
> >all visit the website hosting it. I have been involved with computers for
> >over 20 years and know that a website does not have to overtly ask
> >for information from an internet visitor in order to collect information
> >that
> >can be of great value to telemarketers.
> >
> >Seeing as we are all genealogists here, and ply our avocation with the use
> >of computers; it is reasonable to suppose that we keep data valuable to
> >genealogy publishing houses on our machines as well. No security program
> >that I know of will prevent all prying by websites that we visit; rather
> >they
> >are more concerned with unsolicited digital material. If we go anywhere,
> >we are asking for not only whatever that site can give to us, but also for
> >whatever that site can take away; with windows the playing field is not
> >level, and we have neither the skill nor the means to prevent it.
> >
> >A database site is in the business of collecting data. They sell this data.
> >If
> >one gives a 'free' or 'very cheap' service that is obviousely below cost,
> >then
> >someone somewhere is paying. There is no free lunch, and data mined by
> >an XML program or 'Flash 6' or HTML or a '.cgi' routine could be resold to
> >anywhere with no guarantees. We will not have our personal web address
> >book, personal checking or credit accounts and numbers and PIN numbers
> >as well as our GEDcom files and '.FTW' files mined out serrepititiousely by
> >such a site. We have personally seen some of our data wind up on commercial
> >copyrighted CD's from 'for profit' companies that we had not given them.
> >They literally stole our data from third parties and then copyrighted our
> >own families!
> >
> >We are not such a large group that we would need commercial interlopers to
> >facilitate talking to each other. The first reunion had no need of such.
> >The only
> >reason that one would even want such a 'service' in the first place would
> >logically be if there were an extremely small group of organizers, maybe
> >only
> >one person. This reunion has to be about more than one.
> >
> >Notice the letter is also a solicitation for business for this company and
> >was
> >generated by the company. For that reason we are not signing this letter,
> >and 'white dove' is in the public domain.
> >
> >
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