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From: "Sherrill U Williams" <>
Subject: Re: [WILDER-SOUTH-L] TN Rev. War Land Warrants
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 21:30:58 -0400


Beth - the tories were loyalists - loyal to King George of Great Britain and
fought the war on the side of Great Britain, often joining up with their
forces. Many of the residents along the North Carolina and South Carolina
border, as well as many of those in Burke Co, NC and in the old Surry/Wilkes
Co area, the mountain region, leaned toward loyalty to Great Britain. There
were also a lot of tories in New York, and they were probably in all the
colonies. When the war was over, many of the tories fled to Canada - Nova
Scotia became the new home for many of them. In Canada, the descendants of
these people are referred to as United Kingdom Loyalists.

When you have time, do go to the NGS library and check on that reference to
Joab Wilder being a Tory. Also, whoever has the reference to Joab being in
a militia group, please post that to the list.

I wish to remind others on this list that I lived most of my life in
Washington Co, TN, and today live 2 miles from the county line. In other
words, I buy all my groceries there. I have checked all the Washington Co
records, as well as deeds, etc.

When Joab Wilder got his "Tennessee" land grant, the territory belonged to
the federal government as the "Territory South of the River Ohio" and the
records from that era are recorded in Washington Co, TN. When Joab sold
this land, Carter Co, TN was just being formed, and the purchaser recorded
his deed in Carter County. In the 1830's, Johnson County, TN was created
from Carter County, and today Johnson County encompasses the territory where
Joab Wilder's land grant was located. The land is very near the North
Carolina border, just where the Watauga River flows into Tennessee from
North Carolina.......at the Stone Mountain which is also near the state
lines. Joab Wilder's land had originally been granted to John Asher, and
was assigned to Joab by John's son, Charles Asher. The Hoskins family were
also neighbors, and Ninian Hoskins is mentioned frequently in Washington Co,
TN court minutes. Later, Ninian Hoskins moved to the Harlan Co, KY area.
It is interesting to speculate how these families could be interrelated.
Did Joab Wilder have daughters who could have married into these families?
Something to think about.

This has not been my week for computers. Earlier in the week my keyboard
threw up its hands and refused to type one letter. I finally had to attach
the keyboard from my other computer to this one. Then, last night, just as
we were falling asleep, a giant bolt of lightening struck the transmitter on
the power line coming into our house. At that moment I thought - there goes
my modem! Sure enough, when I came down to check the email this morning,
the modem was sure enough "fried." So, I have spent all day fooling with
the thing, but did get a new one installed today - thank goodness. So, if
nothing I wrote, above, makes sense, please ask me to re-state it.
Sherrill
-----Original Message-----
From: Adams <>
To: <>
Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WILDER-SOUTH-L] TN Rev. War Land Warrants


>Hi Sherrill,
>
>I do remember Joab being listed in a North Carolina Militia in 1777. I'll
have
>to go through my notes and try to find the information again.
>
>I also remember along time ago, before you joined the list, I remember
seeing a
>Joseph Wilder listed as a Tory and I believe that it was in North Carolina.
>This was in a book at the NGS Library. However, I didn't have time to copy
the
>information at the time. If I remember correctly, didn't someone post
something
>stating this fact? Looks like I need to go and find that book at the NGS
>Library.
>
>Could you explain Tories to me? I was never good at history......lol I
think I
>missed that day when they were studying that part of history.....lol
>
>Beth
>
>Sherrill U Williams wrote:
>
>> Beth - no I don't have Joab's revolutionary record. If he served at all,
>> and there is some evidence that he did, it was probably in some local
>> militia group that kept no records. Considering where he was living
during
>> the revolution, I would say that was true for him. There are few
military
>> records for those mountain boys, unless they lived long enough to apply
for
>> pensions. Also considering where he lived, I would guess that he had
>> loyalist (tory) leanings, and spent most of the war period "hid out."
That
>> explains our difficulty in attaching children to him. There were a
number
>> of prominent and well-known Tories in the moutain area where Joab lived -
>> and a large number of patriot, militia, soldiers whose entire
revolutionary
>> service was spent in hunting the Tories down. Old Timothy Perkins was
one
>> of the noted Tories in Wilkes (part now Ashe) Co, NC......and we know the
>> later relationship between the Perkins and Wilders in Whitley Co, KY. I
do
>> despair of ever finding any substantial and authoritative source data for
>> Joab Wilder and his children.
>> Sherrill
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Adams <>
>> To: <>
>> Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WILDER-SOUTH-L] TN Rev. War Land Warrants
>>
>> >Hi Sherrill,
>> >
>> >Do you have any information on Joab's Revolutionary War Service such as
the
>> >Company and Regiment in which he served? I'm trying to locate Joseph's
>> service
>> >record. We have a couple of references that state that he served in the
>> >Revolution, but have been unable to locate his service record.
>> >
>> >Beth
>> >
>> >Sherrill U Williams wrote:
>> >
>> >> Beth,
>> >> TN Revolutionary War Land Warrants are really North Carolina Land
>> >> records. TN was part of NC during the Rev. War. The original records
>> would
>> >> be at NC Archives. I am sure, however, that all or most of the TN
land
>> >> records for land granted by NC were copied by TN after statehood
(1796).
>> NC
>> >> set aside a special military boundary in TN for granting to her Rev.
>> >> soldiers. Go to the Lib of Congress and look for this book:
>> >> "North Carolina Land Grants in Tennessee, 1778-1791," by Betty
Goff
>> Cook
>> >> Cartwright & Lillian Johnson Gardiner, 1958. There are only two
Wilders
>> in
>> >> the index: Joab Wilder's grant (which we have - not military) and
>> Randol
>> >> Wilder. Randol received 1000 acres on the south side of Cumberland
>> River.
>> >> This grant was assigned "by the heirs of Randol Wilder, Cpl." to
James
>> >> Gloster Brehon.
>> >> Sherrill
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Adams <>
>> >> To: <>
>> >> Date: Monday, May 22, 2000 8:44 PM
>> >> Subject: [WILDER-SOUTH-L] TN Rev. War Land Warrants
>> >>
>> >> >Hi Everyone,
>> >> >
>> >> >Does anyone know where I can find the TN Rev. War Land Warrants?
Would
>> >> >these be located at the TN Archives in Nashville? Any help would be
>> >> >appreciated.
>> >> >
>> >> >Beth
>> >> >
>> >
>

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