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From: "Sherrill U Williams" <>
Subject: Re: [WILDER-SOUTH-L] TN Rev. War Land Warrants
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:30:58 -0400


Beth, the Blevins family are, today, a large family in Johnson Co, TN
(formerly Carter Co, formerly Washington Co).
Sherrill

-----Original Message-----
From: Adams <>
To: <>
Date: Thursday, May 25, 2000 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WILDER-SOUTH-L] TN Rev. War Land Warrants


>Hi Sherrill,
>
>Dillion Asher was the son of William Asher and Margret "Peggy" Blevins.
>Dillion Asher is similar to Good Old Joe. Dillion had children by at least
4
>women. His descendants married into the Sizemore's in Kentucky.
>
>What a tangle web we weave..........
>
>Beth
>
>Sherrill U Williams wrote:
>
>> Beth, the John Asher who got the original grant was deceased when Charles
>> Asher, his son transferred the grant to Joab Wilder. No doubt, tho' that
>> the John & Dillon in KY come from the family in Tennessee. The John
Asher
>> in KY may be a son of John, dec'd - or a son of Charles Asher. Who
knows?
>> Sherrill
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Adams <>
>> To: <>
>> Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 10:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WILDER-SOUTH-L] TN Rev. War Land Warrants
>>
>> >Hi Sherrill,
>> >
>> >Sorry to hear about all the problems!!
>> >
>> >The reference that I found at the NGS library was for Joseph Wilder, not
>> Joab.
>> >However, when I get a chance, I'll check it out.
>> >
>> >Sherrill, there is a John Asher and Dill Asher, assuming that this is
old
>> >Dillion Asher, that appear in the 1800 Knox County Tax List. Could this
be
>> the
>> >same John Asher who had a son named Charles? John is in Knox County in
>> 1800 and
>> >1801. Disappears after that. However Dillion is there until 1803.
Does
>> not
>> >appear in 1804 and 1805, but is back again in 1806. Dillion resides in
>> Clay
>> >County in 1807 where he stays. John disappears from Kentucky prior to
1802
>> and
>> >is not found in Kentucky. Again Could this be the same John Asher who
had
>> a son
>> >named Charles?
>> >
>> >Phyllis, do you have the listing of the wilders that we found in the
North
>> >Carolina Militia? I'm still trying to find mine. If you have it could
you
>> post
>> >it for us?
>> >
>> >Sherrill, if Joab served in the North Carolina Militia and then deserted
to
>> >become a Tory/Loyalist, that would explain the severe punishment he got
>> when he
>> >was tried for desertion and received 25 slashes when the other two
people
>> only
>> >got 3 or 5 slashes for the same offense, if I remember correctly.
>> >
>> >I will be leaving for Kentucky on Friday, just to let you know and I
will
>> return
>> >sometime the following weekend. Just to let everyone know.
>> >
>> >Beth
>> >
>> >Sherrill U Williams wrote:
>> >
>> >> Beth - the tories were loyalists - loyal to King George of Great
Britain
>> and
>> >> fought the war on the side of Great Britain, often joining up with
their
>> >> forces. Many of the residents along the North Carolina and South
>> Carolina
>> >> border, as well as many of those in Burke Co, NC and in the old
>> Surry/Wilkes
>> >> Co area, the mountain region, leaned toward loyalty to Great Britain.
>> There
>> >> were also a lot of tories in New York, and they were probably in all
the
>> >> colonies. When the war was over, many of the tories fled to Canada -
>> Nova
>> >> Scotia became the new home for many of them. In Canada, the
descendants
>> of
>> >> these people are referred to as United Kingdom Loyalists.
>> >>
>> >> When you have time, do go to the NGS library and check on that
reference
>> to
>> >> Joab Wilder being a Tory. Also, whoever has the reference to Joab
being
>> in
>> >> a militia group, please post that to the list.
>> >>
>> >> I wish to remind others on this list that I lived most of my life in
>> >> Washington Co, TN, and today live 2 miles from the county line. In
other
>> >> words, I buy all my groceries there. I have checked all the
Washington
>> Co
>> >> records, as well as deeds, etc.
>> >>
>> >> When Joab Wilder got his "Tennessee" land grant, the territory
belonged
>> to
>> >> the federal government as the "Territory South of the River Ohio" and
the
>> >> records from that era are recorded in Washington Co, TN. When Joab
sold
>> >> this land, Carter Co, TN was just being formed, and the purchaser
>> recorded
>> >> his deed in Carter County. In the 1830's, Johnson County, TN was
created
>> >> from Carter County, and today Johnson County encompasses the territory
>> where
>> >> Joab Wilder's land grant was located. The land is very near the North
>> >> Carolina border, just where the Watauga River flows into Tennessee
from
>> >> North Carolina.......at the Stone Mountain which is also near the
state
>> >> lines. Joab Wilder's land had originally been granted to John Asher,
and
>> >> was assigned to Joab by John's son, Charles Asher. The Hoskins family
>> were
>> >> also neighbors, and Ninian Hoskins is mentioned frequently in
Washington
>> Co,
>> >> TN court minutes. Later, Ninian Hoskins moved to the Harlan Co, KY
area.
>> >> It is interesting to speculate how these families could be
interrelated.
>> >> Did Joab Wilder have daughters who could have married into these
>> families?
>> >> Something to think about.
>> >>
>> >> This has not been my week for computers. Earlier in the week my
keyboard
>> >> threw up its hands and refused to type one letter. I finally had to
>> attach
>> >> the keyboard from my other computer to this one. Then, last night,
just
>> as
>> >> we were falling asleep, a giant bolt of lightening struck the
transmitter
>> on
>> >> the power line coming into our house. At that moment I thought -
there
>> goes
>> >> my modem! Sure enough, when I came down to check the email this
morning,
>> >> the modem was sure enough "fried." So, I have spent all day fooling
with
>> >> the thing, but did get a new one installed today - thank goodness.
So,
>> if
>> >> nothing I wrote, above, makes sense, please ask me to re-state it.
>> >> Sherrill
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Adams <>
>> >> To: <>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:00 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [WILDER-SOUTH-L] TN Rev. War Land Warrants
>> >>
>> >> >Hi Sherrill,
>> >> >
>> >> >I do remember Joab being listed in a North Carolina Militia in 1777.
>> I'll
>> >> have
>> >> >to go through my notes and try to find the information again.
>> >> >
>> >> >I also remember along time ago, before you joined the list, I
remember
>> >> seeing a
>> >> >Joseph Wilder listed as a Tory and I believe that it was in North
>> Carolina.
>> >> >This was in a book at the NGS Library. However, I didn't have time
to
>> copy
>> >> the
>> >> >information at the time. If I remember correctly, didn't someone
post
>> >> something
>> >> >stating this fact? Looks like I need to go and find that book at the
>> NGS
>> >> >Library.
>> >> >
>> >> >Could you explain Tories to me? I was never good at history......lol
I
>> >> think I
>> >> >missed that day when they were studying that part of history.....lol
>> >> >
>> >> >Beth
>> >> >
>> >> >Sherrill U Williams wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Beth - no I don't have Joab's revolutionary record. If he served
at
>> all,
>> >> >> and there is some evidence that he did, it was probably in some
local
>> >> >> militia group that kept no records. Considering where he was
living
>> >> during
>> >> >> the revolution, I would say that was true for him. There are few
>> >> military
>> >> >> records for those mountain boys, unless they lived long enough to
>> apply
>> >> for
>> >> >> pensions. Also considering where he lived, I would guess that he
had
>> >> >> loyalist (tory) leanings, and spent most of the war period "hid
out."
>> >> That
>> >> >> explains our difficulty in attaching children to him. There were a
>> >> number
>> >> >> of prominent and well-known Tories in the moutain area where Joab
>> lived -
>> >> >> and a large number of patriot, militia, soldiers whose entire
>> >> revolutionary
>> >> >> service was spent in hunting the Tories down. Old Timothy Perkins
was
>> >> one
>> >> >> of the noted Tories in Wilkes (part now Ashe) Co, NC......and we
know
>> the
>> >> >> later relationship between the Perkins and Wilders in Whitley Co,
KY.
>> I
>> >> do
>> >> >> despair of ever finding any substantial and authoritative source
data
>> for
>> >> >> Joab Wilder and his children.
>> >> >> Sherrill
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Adams <>
>> >> >> To: <>
>> >> >> Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:48 AM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [WILDER-SOUTH-L] TN Rev. War Land Warrants
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Hi Sherrill,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Do you have any information on Joab's Revolutionary War Service
such
>> as
>> >> the
>> >> >> >Company and Regiment in which he served? I'm trying to locate
>> Joseph's
>> >> >> service
>> >> >> >record. We have a couple of references that state that he served
in
>> the
>> >> >> >Revolution, but have been unable to locate his service record.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Beth
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Sherrill U Williams wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Beth,
>> >> >> >> TN Revolutionary War Land Warrants are really North Carolina
>> Land
>> >> >> >> records. TN was part of NC during the Rev. War. The original
>> records
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> be at NC Archives. I am sure, however, that all or most of the
TN
>> >> land
>> >> >> >> records for land granted by NC were copied by TN after statehood
>> >> (1796).
>> >> >> NC
>> >> >> >> set aside a special military boundary in TN for granting to her
>> Rev.
>> >> >> >> soldiers. Go to the Lib of Congress and look for this book:
>> >> >> >> "North Carolina Land Grants in Tennessee, 1778-1791," by
Betty
>> >> Goff
>> >> >> Cook
>> >> >> >> Cartwright & Lillian Johnson Gardiner, 1958. There are only two
>> >> Wilders
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> the index: Joab Wilder's grant (which we have - not military)
and
>> >> >> Randol
>> >> >> >> Wilder. Randol received 1000 acres on the south side of
Cumberland
>> >> >> River.
>> >> >> >> This grant was assigned "by the heirs of Randol Wilder, Cpl."
to
>> >> James
>> >> >> >> Gloster Brehon.
>> >> >> >> Sherrill
>> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> From: Adams <>
>> >> >> >> To: <>
>> >> >> >> Date: Monday, May 22, 2000 8:44 PM
>> >> >> >> Subject: [WILDER-SOUTH-L] TN Rev. War Land Warrants
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Hi Everyone,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Does anyone know where I can find the TN Rev. War Land
Warrants?
>> >> Would
>> >> >> >> >these be located at the TN Archives in Nashville? Any help
would
>> be
>> >> >> >> >appreciated.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Beth
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>

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