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From: jerry williams <>
Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] FamilyTreeDNA Interpretation
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:36:47 -0500
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What would a 11-12 match mean. Would the kin be close if so how many
generations. Or could you figure it this way?
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:17 PM, N & K Chestnut <>wrote:
> At times DNA test results come back very slowly. If the results aren't
> clear (or definite), they have to start the testing over again.
> If you get back a 12/12 match and with your surname WILLIAMS, you are out
> of the gates with a good start. If you have a 11/12 match, don't give up
> hope; but don't stop working on your regular genealogical research
> ("paper-trail").
>
> Kay C.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jerry williams
> To: ;
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] FamilyTreeDNA Interpretation
>
>
> Hi,
> I have sent off for the 25 marker dna test have not received the results
> as
> yet.
> See if I have this right, on the first go round I should have a 12- 12
> match
> if not the next 13-25 will not match. If I have no match then I should
> look
> for another surname? Or wait untill I do find a match?
> OK I also don't know what to expect when I hear from the dna test will
> they
> contact me and tell me who I match with if I match?
> Jerry
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:03 AM, V Williams <> wrote:
>
> > Jeffery, I'll try this again,
> > Looking over your numbers, MFT was correct, you do not match any
> williams
> > group.
> > I will try and explain how the numbers work.
> > I will use your first 12 numbers & the group # 21 Arlen's numbers as
> an
> > example:
> >
> >
> >
> 393......390......394.......391....385a....385b...426....388....439......389-1...392.....389-2
> > 14-13 23-25 15-15 10-10 14-11 15-15 11-12 13-10 10-10
> 14-14
> > 12-11 31-32
> >
> > Now, you can see, you & Arlen only match on 5 markers...
> > markers 394 15-15
> > marker 391 10-10
> > marker 385b 15-15
> > marker 439 10-10
> > marker 389-1 14-14
> >
> > then the next set (24) of numbers should match & of course 36 markers
> > should match.
> > You can be 1 or 2 marker numbers off & still be a match....or those
> yellow
> > spots, those just mean a mutation, or a change in the dna.
> > And sorry to say you do not match anyone or even close to any Williams
> > (YET) In time maybe someone else will show up & match you.
> > Ask your family if there is a known adoption in your male Williams
> line.
> > You just never know what these DNA outcomes will be, and you should be
> > prepared for any surprizes !
> > Something may have happened 100 or more years ago. Families died &
> left
> > small children, neighbors sometime took them in & raised them as their
> own &
> > in time family names were lost....If My Famliy Tree dna told you an only
> > match is in Great Britian, maybe your line is from a British soldier
> during
> > the Rev War? You just never know. Don't give up, keep looking , that
> is
> > part of the fun of the puzzle.
> >
> > Vic
> > -
> >
> >
> > -- On Mon, 2/2/09, jerry williams <> wrote:
> >
> > From: jerry williams <>
> > Subject: Re: [WILLIAMS-DNA] FamilyTreeDNA Interpretation
> > To:
> > Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 1:30 PM
> >
> > Hello.
> > See if I have this right.
> > I will receive the first 12 markers if I have a 12-12 match that is
> good.
> > But what do I do with it?
> > Then I will receive the 25 markers if I have a 25-25 match that is good
> > also. But what will I do with this information?
> > What is not considered good? Would a 20- 25 be good or what would be the
> > lowest number that is not worth checking out?
> > Jerry
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:40 AM, N & K Chestnut
> > <>wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jeffrey,
> > > Welcome to the WILLIAMS-DNA Project.
> > > Have you heard from Adrian WILLIAMS? If yes, you would have some
> of
> > > your questions answered already. If no, Adrian must be busy at
> > > FamilyTreeDNA; Adrian has moved up in the FamilyTreeDNA world. At
> first
> > we
> > > WILLIAMSes had him all to ourselves.
> > > FamilyTreeDNA reports each test as it is completed. At first they
> > > report the first 12 Markers. Then the next 12 markers, which means
> > 13-25.
> > > Finally they report the next 12 makers, which means 26-37. What you
> > are
> > > hoping for is a 35/37 marker 'match' or better, like 36/37 or
> > 37/37. But
> > > 34/37 could be considered good, also. When you have those kind of
> > > 'matches', then you exchanged information with the matching person
> > or their
> > > 'contact' person. And you try to figure out when and where the
> > common male
> > > ancestor would be. And you exchange your genealogical information.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jeffrey Williams
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:34 PM
> > > Subject: [WILLIAMS-DNA] FamilyTreeDNA Interpretation
> > >
> > >
> > > Okay - Still relatively new to this site. Just received my results
> from
> > > the
> > > FamilyTreeDNA program (yes, I enrolled through the Williams Genealogy
> > > website) but have absolutely no clue as to what the numbers mean.
> Could
> > > someone please help a newby like me in basic interpretation. Are
> there
> > > certain DYS numbers that mean more than others? What numbers need to
> > > match
> > > in order to be classified as a "group"?
> > >
> > > FT DNA had me listed as having one person in Great Britain matching
> all
> > 12
> > > markers for the 12 market test, but nothing for the rest (took the 37
> > > marker).
> > >
> > > I'd like to know your opinion and an explanation of the data below,
> > if
> > > y'all
> > > could be so kind.
> > >
> > > Here are the numbers: the third column are numbers for Arlen in
> Group
> > 21.
> > > 393 --- 14 13
> > > 390 --- 23 25
> > > 19/394 -- 15 15
> > > 391 --- 10 10
> > > 385a --- 14 11
> > > 385b --- 15 15
> > > 426 --- 11 12
> > > 388 --- 13 10
> > > 439 --- 10 10
> > > 389-1 --- 14 14
> > > 392 --- 12 11
> > > 389-2 --- 31 32
> > > 458 --- 15 15
> > > 459a --- 8 9
> > > 459b --- 10 10
> > > 455 --- 11 11
> > > 454 --- 11 11
> > > 447 ---- 25 25
> > > 437 --- 14 14
> > > 448 --- 20 19
> > > 449 ---- 27 32
> > > 464a --- 11 12
> > > 464b --- 13 14
> > > 464c --- 14 14
> > > 464d --- 16 17
> > > 460 --- 11 12
> > > H4 --- 9 10
> > > YCA IIa - 19 19
> > > YCA IIb - 21 23
> > > 456 --- 14 16
> > > 607 --- 14 16
> > > 576 --- 17 18
> > > 570 --- 19 18
> > > CDYa - 34 33
> > > CDYb - 39 39
> > > 442 -- 12 12
> > > 438 --- 10 11
> > >
> > > If you don't have a 12/12 match at the start, it is not
> > likely
> > > that identical 'markers' further down (or across if they are
> > arranged that
> > > way) are very important (significant). But a very few 11/12 have been
> > > followed by enough identical or 'matching' numbers.
> > >
> > > Kay C. sister to Arlen #32985 and in group 21
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey S. Williams
> > > http://nationaldebtbusters.blogspot.com
> > > http://obamaalert.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > "I think I understand what military fame is; to be killed on the
> > field of
> > > battle and have your name misspelled in the newspapers."
> > > - General William Tecumseh Sherman
> > >
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