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From: "Mark Parry-Jones" <>
Subject: Re: [CAE] WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 11
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:19:04 +0100
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Hi again Eleri

I'm pretty confidant that these are you peeps.
Different wife though which suggests that Gaynor was his second. You could
check the marriage certificate to see if he was a widower. Few more sprogs
there for you too. If you notice Morris is mussing from the 81 but come back
on the 91. Also if I recall Robert was a Sawyer on a couple of them and
morfa was mentioned again.

UK Census Collection > 1871 Wales Census > Caernarvonshire > Llanbeblig >
District 7
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5720; Folio: 47; Page: 5; GSU roll:
875590.

Name: Robert Thomas
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Winefred
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanllyfni, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llanbeblig
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales

Name: Winefred Thomas
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanllyfni, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llanbeblig
County/Island: Caernarvonshire
Country: Wales

Evan Thomas 8
Jane Ellin Thomas 11 months
Morris Thomas 6
Richard Thomas 10
Robert Thomas 15

Regards

Mark



----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleri Rowlands" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [CAE] WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 11


> Thank you so much both for helping me. I did have them on the 1881 but the
> 1871 and 1891 had eluded me. Anyone have the 1871? I'm being greedy now
> !!!
> Thank you again
> Eleri
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: WLS-CAERNARFONSHIRE Digest, Vol 1, Issue 11
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>
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. 1891 census (Eleri Rowlands)
>> 2. Re: 1891 census (Mark Parry-Jones)
>> 3. Re: 1891 census (Mark Parry-Jones)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:59:45 +0100
>> From: "Eleri Rowlands" <>
>> Subject: [CAE] 1891 census
>> To: <>
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>>
>> Please can anyone help me find ROBERT THOMAS and his wife GAYNOR on the
>> 1891 census.
>>
>> I have the family on the 1901 census in Abergwyngregin. But Robert had
>> died by then.
>> The family lived for years in Glanmorfa, Llanbeblig, under Pont Seiont,
>> Caernarfon. So I'm not sure where they lived in 1891 nor whether Robert
>> was alive. It may be easier to find Gaynor who was born in Llanbeblig.
>> She
>> could have the children, Catherine A, Richard, Thomas H, John and Gaynor
>> with her.
>> Thanks
>> Eleri
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:01:07 +0100
>> From: "Mark Parry-Jones" <>
>> Subject: Re: [CAE] 1891 census
>> To: <>
>> Message-ID: <>
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>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Do you have them is the 1881 Census?
>>
>> Found these in the 1881
>>
>> Name: Gaynor Thomas
>> Age: 46
>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
>> Relation: Wife
>> Spouse's name: Robert
>> Gender: Female
>> Where born: Llanbeblig, Caernarvonshire, Wales
>> Civil Parish: Llanbeblig County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales
>> Street address: Glan Morfa
>> Condition as to marriage: Married
>>
>> Name: Robert Thomas Age: 46
>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
>> Relation: Head
>> Spouse's name: Gaynor
>> Gender: Male
>> Where born: Llangybi, Caernarvonshire, Wales
>> Civil Parish: Llanbeblig County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales
>> Street address: Glan Morfa
>> Condition as to marriage: Married
>>
>> Household Members:
>>
>> Catherine A Thomas 5
>> Evan Thomas 18
>> Griffith Thomas 7
>> John Thomas 9
>> Richard Thomas 20
>> Thomas H Thomas 1
>>
>> but could only find an Gaynor Thomas 'Inmate' in 1891 :(
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eleri Rowlands" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:59 PM
>> Subject: [CAE] 1891 census
>>
>>
>>> Please can anyone help me find ROBERT THOMAS and his wife GAYNOR on the
>>> 1891 census.
>>>
>>> I have the family on the 1901 census in Abergwyngregin. But Robert had
>>> died by then.
>>> The family lived for years in Glanmorfa, Llanbeblig, under Pont Seiont,
>>> Caernarfon. So I'm not sure where they lived in 1891 nor whether Robert
>>> was alive. It may be easier to find Gaynor who was born in Llanbeblig.
>>> She
>>> could have the children, Catherine A, Richard, Thomas H, John and Gaynor
>>> with her.
>>> Thanks
>>> Eleri
>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:37:19 +0100
>> From: "Mark Parry-Jones" <>
>> Subject: Re: [CAE] 1891 census
>> To: <>
>> Message-ID: <>
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>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Eleri,
>>
>> Success, still in Aber, it was the spouse name of Gregor that got me ha
>> ha.
>>
>> Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4667; Folio 119; Page 5; GSU roll:
>> 6099777.
>> UK Census Collection >1891 Wales Census > Caernarvonshire > Aber >
>> District
>> 16
>>
>> Name: Robert Thomas
>> Age: 50
>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
>> Relation: Head
>> Spouse's name: Gregor
>> Gender: Male
>> Where born: Llanllyfni, Caernarvonshire, Wales
>> Civil Parish: Aber
>> Ecclesiastical parish: Aber
>> Town: Aber
>> County/Island: Caernarvonshire
>> Country: Wales
>>
>> Name: Gregor Thomas
>> Age: 56
>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
>> Relation: Wife
>> Spouse's name: Robert
>> Gender: Female
>> Where born: Llanllyfni,
>> Caernarvonshire, Wales
>>
>> Other household members
>>
>> Catherine Ann Thomas 15
>> Gregor Thomas 56
>> Griffith Thomas 17
>> John Thomas 19
>> Morris Thomas 26
>> Richard Thomas 30
>> Robert Thomas 50
>> Thomas H Thomas 12
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mark Parry-Jones" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CAE] 1891 census
>>
>>
>>> Do you have them is the 1881 Census?
>>>
>>> Found these in the 1881
>>>
>>> Name: Gaynor Thomas
>>> Age: 46
>>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
>>> Relation: Wife
>>> Spouse's name: Robert
>>> Gender: Female
>>> Where born: Llanbeblig, Caernarvonshire, Wales
>>> Civil Parish: Llanbeblig County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales
>>> Street address: Glan Morfa
>>> Condition as to marriage: Married
>>>
>>> Name: Robert Thomas Age: 46
>>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
>>> Relation: Head
>>> Spouse's name: Gaynor
>>> Gender: Male
>>> Where born: Llangybi, Caernarvonshire, Wales
>>> Civil Parish: Llanbeblig County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales
>>> Street address: Glan Morfa
>>> Condition as to marriage: Married
>>>
>>> Household Members:
>>>
>>> Catherine A Thomas 5
>>> Evan Thomas 18
>>> Griffith Thomas 7
>>> John Thomas 9
>>> Richard Thomas 20
>>> Thomas H Thomas 1
>>>
>>> but could only find an Gaynor Thomas 'Inmate' in 1891 :(
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Eleri Rowlands" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:59 PM
>>> Subject: [CAE] 1891 census
>>>
>>>
>>>> Please can anyone help me find ROBERT THOMAS and his wife GAYNOR on the
>>>> 1891 census.
>>>>
>>>> I have the family on the 1901 census in Abergwyngregin. But Robert had
>>>> died by then.
>>>> The family lived for years in Glanmorfa, Llanbeblig, under Pont Seiont,
>>>> Caernarfon. So I'm not sure where they lived in 1891 nor whether Robert
>>>> was alive. It may be easier to find Gaynor who was born in Llanbeblig.
>>>> She
>>>> could have the children, Catherine A, Richard, Thomas H, John and
>>>> Gaynor
>>>> with her.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Eleri
>>>>
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