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Subject: Re: [MER] Llanfrothen MI
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:56:32 -0000


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Author: walgdemail
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Hello Arfor

Thank you, I didn't realise that ceremonies were carried out in the parish church, regardless of denominations.

Re' Jane's baptism date, through LDS, I found baptisms, on the same day 25 March 1827, for both Jane and Ellinor Williams at the parish church. This was confirmed by Dolgellau RO who added the information that the father was William and mother the late Ellinor Jones, father carpenter of Blaen y Cae.

LDS also give records of their other children, William born 1814 died 1815 and another William, born 1816, but no Anne or Elizabeth (thanks for those).

My Jane was married 23 May 1840 at the parish church and her father and one witness are both named as William Williams, I guessed / hoped that the witness WW could be her brother, as the grooms brother is the other witness.

Dolgellau RO also kindly provided me with an entry from a midwife's birth register showing daughter Jane born to William Williams and Ellinor (daughter of John Jones and Elizabeth) Blaen y Cae, on 6 September1818.
1841 census shows a WW (as a farmer, which is as on my Jane's marriage cert') with William 1816 and Ellinor 1821, but nobody else, which ties in with the early death of his wife.

So, it certainly looks like we have one family, William - Ellinor & children / John Jones - Elizabeth etc and everything that I've found appears to say that their Jane is my g grandmother, but .....there is nothing to definitely tie her to them which leaves the now possibility that their Jane is the one who married Pierce Williams! Although that would make her aged about 18 at time of marriage, is that likely? If only there was some way of linking Jane married Walter Davies to that family.

Well, I hope I haven't totally confused you and thanks again for the information you have provided so far.
Regards - Walter

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