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From: "Roger Davies" <>
Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Lettice Sambruck
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:34:20 +0100
References: <01c401c58d39$9114f810$1102a8c0@roger> <003501c58eb6$b4fe8ba0$20308690@ibm>


Thanks again. As you say I now have some work to do.

On the question of spelling, most of these people couldn't read or write so
the name was spelt by the vicar as it sounded. With a name like Sambrook
that gave lots of possibilities.
Thomas' children were baptised as Sambruck, Sambruk, Samruck and Shambruck,
and his son James' were Sambrook, Sambroke, Sambruck and Sawbrook. This
last could be a transcription error though. The regular occurrence of 'Sh'
at the beginning here and earlier makes me wonder whether some of this
family might have spoken with a lisp? It was a lot more common in my younger
days than it seems to be today.

Thanks again. I will let you know, eventually, what I find.

Roger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bettye & Lance Kirkwood" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Lettice Sambruck


> Dear Roger & Mel,
>
> I found some paperwork previously sent to me by a Mr. Sandbrook with St.
> Dogmaels interests. His father had someone research the name and this is
> what he sent me for the Fishguard connection. You have some searching and
> doublechecking to do!
>
> Elinor Sambrook died 1800 aged 104, i.e. born 1696.
>
> William George (1747-1839) m. Mary.
> A descent line goes to Ann George (b.1787) m. Joseph Owen.1808.
> Next descent line to John Owen and David Owen.
>
> My own records show William George m. Mary Lewis at Llanwnda in
> 1778...copy
> of the parish register entry would provide witness names, but their
> daughter
> Ann George's marriage to Joseph Owen at Llanwnda comes from the Bishop's
> transcripts...no witness names.
>
> How this is supposed to tie into either of the Lettice Owens I have no
> idea!
> David Sambrook (1785-1839) m. Lettice Owen (1787-1853) at Llanwnda in
> 1805.
> Thomas Shambrook is shown in my records as marrying Lettice Owen 1809 at
> Fishguard (from BT's so unfortunately there will not be a record of his
> signature, to check the spelling).
>
> I found the Benjamin Sambrook (mentioned earlier message), in the Cemais
> Hundred pre-1813 marriages surprisingly, shown as marrying Anne Williams
> at
> Fishguard in 1802...I can only imagine that the minister from the Cemais
> area officiated.. Witness names would be available on the parish register
> entry.
>
> David Sambrook, the farmer, who m. Lettice Owen.... and had 12 children
> one
> of whom was named Lettice (died 1856)......is shown by my correspondent as
> descending from a David Sambrook (1755-1806) and his wife Ann, but the
> only
> suitable marriage I can find is between Owen Sambrook and Ann Phillip at
> Mathry in 1783.
>
> The St. David's Probate index shows:
> David Sambrook Fishguard, Grant ref. no. SD1806/57.
> David Sambruck., Farmer of Llanwnda, Llanwnda. Will & X , SD1839/234.
> Lettice Sambruck, Widow, Will 2 Extras SD1854/116
> Lettice Sambruck, Fishguard, Spinster, Bond, Grant 3 X, SD1856/327.These
> seem to set out the farmer's family nicely except for perhaps the first
> who
> might not be the farmer's father...but whilst abstracts for the Wills
> could
> be obtained from Haverfordwest RO, Grant copies are only available from
> The
> National Library, I believe.
>
> Now.........your Thomas was shown with the spelling of SHAMBROOK in the
> Cemais records, so I wonder if really he had any connection at all to the
> others.....but perhaps ties into:
>
> Elizabeth Shambrook, Wern, Llanelli Carm. Widow Will & X SD1851/99
>
> John Shambrook, Sea Side, Llanelli, Carm. Mariner Will, Bond & Grant
> SD1851/105.
>
> I have not checked back into earlier will records....only from 1750 to
> 1858.
> Hopefully someone's George research, or Mel's Owens will shed further
> light.
> If you wish to seek further family members, then the parish register
> witness
> names for the marriages of Mary Sambrook who in 1791 m. William Edward at
> Fishguard and a Sarah Sambrook who m. Edward James in 1810 at Fishguard
> might be enlightening......both marriages appear in the Cemais
> records.....and this might be a valuable clue for anyone who can't find
> their Fishguard kin as these marriages do NOT also appear in the Dewisland
> index.
>
> Bettye Kirkwood, Australia
>
>
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