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From: "Bettye & Lance Kirkwood" <>
Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Lettice Sambruck
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:26:13 +1000
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Dear Roger,

Add to that the Welsh accent.....records perhaps made by folks from the
English speaking part of Pembrokeshire.

Bettye Kirkwood.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Davies" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Lettice Sambruck


> Thanks again. As you say I now have some work to do.
>
> On the question of spelling, most of these people couldn't read or write
so
> the name was spelt by the vicar as it sounded. With a name like Sambrook
> that gave lots of possibilities.
> Thomas' children were baptised as Sambruck, Sambruk, Samruck and
Shambruck,
> and his son James' were Sambrook, Sambroke, Sambruck and Sawbrook. This
> last could be a transcription error though. The regular occurrence of 'Sh'
> at the beginning here and earlier makes me wonder whether some of this
> family might have spoken with a lisp? It was a lot more common in my
younger
> days than it seems to be today.
>
> Thanks again. I will let you know, eventually, what I find.
>
> Roger
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bettye & Lance Kirkwood" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [WLS-PEM] Lettice Sambruck
>
>
> > Dear Roger & Mel,
> >
> > I found some paperwork previously sent to me by a Mr. Sandbrook with St.
> > Dogmaels interests. His father had someone research the name and this
is
> > what he sent me for the Fishguard connection. You have some searching
and
> > doublechecking to do!
> >
> > Elinor Sambrook died 1800 aged 104, i.e. born 1696.
> >
> > William George (1747-1839) m. Mary.
> > A descent line goes to Ann George (b.1787) m. Joseph Owen.1808.
> > Next descent line to John Owen and David Owen.
> >
> > My own records show William George m. Mary Lewis at Llanwnda in
> > 1778...copy
> > of the parish register entry would provide witness names, but their
> > daughter
> > Ann George's marriage to Joseph Owen at Llanwnda comes from the Bishop's
> > transcripts...no witness names.
> >
> > How this is supposed to tie into either of the Lettice Owens I have no
> > idea!
> > David Sambrook (1785-1839) m. Lettice Owen (1787-1853) at Llanwnda in
> > 1805.
> > Thomas Shambrook is shown in my records as marrying Lettice Owen 1809
at
> > Fishguard (from BT's so unfortunately there will not be a record of his
> > signature, to check the spelling).
> >
> > I found the Benjamin Sambrook (mentioned earlier message), in the
Cemais
> > Hundred pre-1813 marriages surprisingly, shown as marrying Anne Williams
> > at
> > Fishguard in 1802...I can only imagine that the minister from the Cemais
> > area officiated.. Witness names would be available on the parish
register
> > entry.
> >
> > David Sambrook, the farmer, who m. Lettice Owen.... and had 12 children
> > one
> > of whom was named Lettice (died 1856)......is shown by my correspondent
as
> > descending from a David Sambrook (1755-1806) and his wife Ann, but the
> > only
> > suitable marriage I can find is between Owen Sambrook and Ann Phillip at
> > Mathry in 1783.
> >
> > The St. David's Probate index shows:
> > David Sambrook Fishguard, Grant ref. no. SD1806/57.
> > David Sambruck., Farmer of Llanwnda, Llanwnda. Will & X , SD1839/234.
> > Lettice Sambruck, Widow, Will 2 Extras SD1854/116
> > Lettice Sambruck, Fishguard, Spinster, Bond, Grant 3 X, SD1856/327.These
> > seem to set out the farmer's family nicely except for perhaps the first
> > who
> > might not be the farmer's father...but whilst abstracts for the Wills
> > could
> > be obtained from Haverfordwest RO, Grant copies are only available from
> > The
> > National Library, I believe.
> >
> > Now.........your Thomas was shown with the spelling of SHAMBROOK in the
> > Cemais records, so I wonder if really he had any connection at all to
the
> > others.....but perhaps ties into:
> >
> > Elizabeth Shambrook, Wern, Llanelli Carm. Widow Will & X SD1851/99
> >
> > John Shambrook, Sea Side, Llanelli, Carm. Mariner Will, Bond & Grant
> > SD1851/105.
> >
> > I have not checked back into earlier will records....only from 1750 to
> > 1858.
> > Hopefully someone's George research, or Mel's Owens will shed further
> > light.
> > If you wish to seek further family members, then the parish register
> > witness
> > names for the marriages of Mary Sambrook who in 1791 m. William Edward
at
> > Fishguard and a Sarah Sambrook who m. Edward James in 1810 at Fishguard
> > might be enlightening......both marriages appear in the Cemais
> > records.....and this might be a valuable clue for anyone who can't find
> > their Fishguard kin as these marriages do NOT also appear in the
Dewisland
> > index.
> >
> > Bettye Kirkwood, Australia
> >
> >
> >
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