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From: (Tobin Wotring)
Subject: AW: Von Outring
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:58:45 +0100
Marg, thanks for your support! My sentiments exactly. My feeling now is that
it was a story invented by an ancestor, which made its way into print.
Unfortunately, many people believe things they read when it's in black on
white and bound, all official looking, etc...
For example there is a nuance of a reference on this URL (see Link to Paul
Vautrin on this page)
that the source may be a book about Preston County, West Virginia. Here's
"PrestonCo.Hist. Soc. Bk--Earliest known ancestor's name was Herman Von
Outring. He was a member of the nobility and an officer in the German
Army. Herman was a friend of Martin Luther's and he was taken before
Prince George and his council, but refused to tell them where Luther was
hiding. He broke his sword in two pcs. and threw them at Prince
George's feet. He made his escape by jumping out the window, slipping
out of his cloak which they had caught. His property and title were
confiscated. The fam. went first to Switzerland, then Ireland, and then
to America, bringing with them a chest of silver and the old Bible. The
name was changed to Wotring because it was easier to say and because
they were no longer of the nobility. The name has also been spelled
Watring and Woodring. (cs notes-also Wutring, Wodring, Woodling,
Wootring, Wooring, Vautrin, Von Outring) "
This really sounds to me like an invented story. It doesn't surprise many of
us who have previously found "family histories" and so-called "biographies"
in print that contain false statements. I'm not trying to get up too high on
a soap box here, just want to find verifiable sources of facts.
If anybody has any books that may fit the description (above) concerning the
history of Preston County, maybe you would be so kind to search for the
references for us. In the meantime I'm going to attempt to obtain them
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Januar 2002 16:20
Betreff: Von Outring
>Copy of email:
>Alright, can anyone finally point me to the exact source of this
>on Captain Herman Von Outring? I have heard these stories before, but so
>cannot find any of the source info.
I totally agree with Tobin...there's been a lot of talk about this Von
man but there has been absolutely no source information given. Is it
possible for those of you who first found this information to let us know
where you found it. None of my sources have found this connection -
inlcuding Raymond Bell. The church records found in Alsace show no
connection to this surname or to the family having originally come from
Switzerland. For those of you who do not know, the area of Alsace is now
located in the northeastern part of France along the France-German border.
have gone through all the church records (80 records) for this area and
just isn't anything at all that points in the direction of this Von Outing
man. Also I have not found anything to make me think this spelling is
another spelling for Vautrin. I'm open to being wrong - just want some
source or documentation to back it up.
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