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From: HERMON B FAGLEY <>
Subject: Re: [WVHAMPSH-L] Re:Did British Capt Byrd know RUDDEL,1780?
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 07:25:17 -0500


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I can talk Gano Ganoe Long Islantd to Hopewell,NJ
Important name in very early Cincinnati,and Columbia,sw Ohio
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This is from ABSTRACTS OF LAND GRANT SURVEYS 1761-1791, Peter Cline
Kaylor,
Clearfield Pub. 1991 (orig. pub. 1938):
These surveys were of land in Augusta and Rockingham Counties, but note
from
some of them they ended up in other counties.
Book 0-1 p. 28 - Andrew Bird, grant for 150 acres on Smith Creek, Feb. 7,

1763.
Same book, p. 56 - Andrew Bird, John Phillips, John Poage, John McAnelly,

Thomas George, John Phillips Jr., and James Daubin, grant of 1500 a.
South
River, both sides of the Rockfish Gap Road. March 26, 1766.
Same Book, p. 154 - Andrew Byrd, 270 acres between Mathew Harrisons and
Millsaps lines. June 5, 1769.
Book O, p. 16 - Ludwick Circle, 220 a. West side of Smith'ls Creek,
adjoining
Birds, Moore, crossing a Road, Coxes land, Feb. 7, 1782.
Book 0, p. 35 - Michael Rader, assignee of Andrew Hudlow, 84 a. adjoining

Lewis Circle and Andrew 'Bird, May 15, 1783.
Book O, p. 52 - Henry Selzer, 125 a. adj. Ekerly, White, Polser,
Harrison,
Andrew Bird, McDowel and Sehorn. April 25, 1785.
Book O, p. 90 - Thomas Moore, 227 a. between Smith's Creek and Long
Meadows.
Adj. Sircle (Zircle) Springer, Marches (Martz), Hooft, Bird, in
consequence
of an entry made by Moor, Nov. 30, 1776..Jan. 20, 1791.

Also, three references to Abraham Bird.
There is also a John Reddle, but index says "see Riddle."

]Good luck -- Marilyn Coalla

"Creonicles of the Scotch-Irish of Augusta Co,Va "on-line for more
Bird-Ruddle,and ,1780,
British under Capt Byrd,of Detroit, and indians,took 480 captives at Ky's
Ruddle's and Martin's
station-have we stumbled onto something. Some said Ruddle was Loyalist
surendering fort,
and he did recieve a farm,on an island,in the Detroit River

On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 18:42:56 EST writes:
> Sharon,
>
> Thank you so much for the info on the Birds....I wonder if this
> Stephen Bird
> on Southbranch Mountain?
>
> John Peters
> Valatie, NY
>
> In a message dated 12/5/2000 8:15:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> writes:
>
> << John,
> I am not sure if you need this information that I found:
> From "Mineral County WV Family Traits, Tracks, and Trails"
> published by
> Robert Rummer
> 1810 Hampshire County Census
> Stephen Bird 1 person
> 1820 Hampshire County Census
> Peter Bird 1 person
> 1830 Hampshire County Census
> Peter Bird 4 males 3 females
> Stephen Bird 3 males 5 females
> 1850 Hampshire County Census
> Amy Bird 0 males 3 females
> Julian Bird 4 males 3 females
> Lewis Bird 1 male 1 female
>
> Simms Index to Land Grants
> Stephen Bird had land granted from 1831 to 1843 all on
> the South
> Branch
>
> Partial List of Civil War Participants
> Tom Bird
>
> From"Early Records of Hampshire County Virginia (now West
> Virginia)" by Sage
> and Jones
> p 116 Synopsis of Wills
> Stephen Ganoe 4-30-1809
> wife not named; son-Stephen; grandsons Stephen, Peter,
> and
> William BIRD; daughter long since deceased
> (Names other but not as relations)
>
> Hope this was some help.
> Sharon Knotts
>
> >>
>


On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 17:50:30 EST writes:
> Hermon,
>
> Yes, Elisha and Cathrina (Ringo) Bird were living in Bethlehem
> township,
> Hunterdon County, NJ in 1734 per E.O. Bennett's book, "Descendents
> of Andrew
> Bird Of Colonial Long Island, NY". And as I mentioned before,
> Cathrina was
> Abertus Ringo's daughter.
>
> John Peters
> Valatie, NY
>
>
> In a message dated 12/5/2000 10:20:40 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> writes:
>
> << Let's toss anoher name,of near Romney,Hampshire, and Loudoun NE
> Va,
> and Hunterdon Co,NJ near RINGO'S-Gabriel, and bro,my Absalom FOX.
> Likely non Quaker. Albertis ingo was found in the ne Va household
> of
> Jeremiah Hampton,who moved to Clarksville-Clinton-Warren Co,Oh.
> Absalom' Fox's son Charles was at Mason,Warren Co,Oh
>
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 21:34:11 EST writes:
> > Yes, there was an Albertus Ringo who was was Cathrina Ringo's
> > father.
> > Cathrina was the mother of my Effie Bi(u)rd. Cathrina married
> Elisha
> >
> > Bird.....Elisha Bird was in Jail(Elisha must have been some
> person
> > because I
> > find the name Elisha Bird handed down in 4 Generations of
> > Peters)......so
> > this could be why they used the u instead of i(just speculating
> > though.
> > Elisha Bird did had 2 brothers, Andrew and Thomasa and
> > George.....was hoping
> > to find them in close to HAmpshire County, WV too. Yes....if
> you've
> > seen
> > Bird/Ringo/Pownall's together...would be very interested in the
> note
> > you
> > saw!!!
> > There was an ancestor George Pownall, who married a Hannah
> > Hutchinson in
> > Solebury. Y or I or U in B_RD......I'm interested!!!
> >
> > I'm not sure if there was a Quaker Church in Hamp, WV, but I know
>
> > that the
> > Peters and Pownall's were practicing Quakers and brought their
> > children up in
> > the Quaker Religion. It could be they believed that they didn't
> need
> > Church
> > to actually practice the Religion( just speculating
> > though)....because they
> > lived around Three Churches and why would they call it that if
> there
> > wasn't
> > at least three churches there!
> >
> > Hope to hear more from you on all these connections and
> especially
> > the
> > RINGO/POWNALL note you mentioned.
> >
> > John Peters
> > Valatie, NY
> >
> > About the Sherman's Valley, PA......I have seen it in Perry
> County,
> > PA.....I
> > just thought maybe by chance someone had heard of a Sherman's
> Valley
> > in
> > Hampshire County, WV. This is where my John Peters was born. His
> > father
> > drowned in the Susquehanna River while trying to rescue a woman.
> His
> > name was
> > James Peters and he too married a BIRD....a Mary Bird.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/4/2000 9:03:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > writes:
> >
> > << Sherman's Valley is in mid s Pa. . Without a map,
> > Franklin-Cumberland
> > Co,Pa
> > or just nw. Had an Enoch Abraham,or Abrams there,who once lived
> > near
> > the se Berks Co,Pa Bird's.
> > I read a note on the Burd's,Pownall's,and Ringo's, in
> > Solebury,Bucks,and
> > Ringo just across the Delaware on the NJ bank. Albertis Ringo
> lived
> > with Jeremiah Hampton in ne Va. Fairfax Co,Va,or adjoining.
> > Pownall's were once Quaker [?] I have no idea if Bird,and Burd
> are
> > one
> > family.
> > 50 miles between them in Pa . I had some anscs die in
> > Solesbury,Bucks.
> > Iden,or Foulke,I guess. Wife had Ashton and Hutchison just
> > downriver from
> >
> > Solesbury. Upper-Lower Makefield,and Falls Quakers.
> > Did Hampshire Co have Quakers,aside on eastern side?Meeting? >>
> >
>
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