Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-G-L Archives

Archiver > Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-G > 2007-07 > 1183960828


From: Ted Kandell <>
Subject: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-G] Images of the Ancient Scythians,and a 19th century photograph of the Alans (Ossetians)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 23:00:28 -0700 (PDT)


Have a look at these two remarkable images.

One is from a gold and silver alloy cup found in a Royal Scythian tomb mound (kurgan) in Crimea that dated from c. 450 BCE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scythian_Warriors.jpg
The man on the left, wearing the ribbon - the "diadem", the Greek symbol of kingship used instead of a crown, is the king.

And here is a photograph of some Alan warriors from the Caucasus in the 19th century:
http://www.kaukasus-kaleidoscope.com/images/chewsuren-hist.jpg

Notice the characteristic "Scythian cap" in both images.
Incredible continuity here!

This is clearly what the ancient Sarmatians, Scythians, Sakas, and Alans would have looked like (minus the muskets - just substitute "Scythian recurved bows and larger shields).

Here are some more images of the ancient Scythians:

A gold comb showing battling Scythian warriors:
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/images/scythians_art2.jpg

A gold vessel depicting Scythian warriors:
http://www.metmuseum.org/special/Golden%20Deer/images/146.L.jpg
http://studentorgs.utexas.edu/husa/origins/szkitahist/scythianvessel.gif

Images of Sakas / Scythians bearing tribute to the Persian Emperor at Persepolis wearing the "pointed hat" mentioned in Herodotus:
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/images/scythians_persepolis1.jpg
http://www.payvand.com/news/03/mar/nyimg10.jpg

Scythians depicted on the Pazyrk Carpet, a remarkable find preseved in a Scythian tomb in the Altai Mountains of Siberia dating from c. 450 BCE :
http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Images2/Achaemenid/Artefacts/Textile/Achaemenid_Carpet_Pazyryk.jpg

The first Parthian Emperor of Persia, Arsaces I (247 - 211 BCE) who was of Scythian (Parni) descent from what is now Turkmenistan:
http://www.parthia.com/coins/pdc_4701.jpg
Notice that he's depicted wearing a Scythian cap instead of the Imperial crown of Persia. The Parthian Emperors were depicted this way for several generations after the founding of the dynasty.


-ted

DQ377992 in GenBank Nucleotide
YGYTX in ySearch / DNA-Fingerprint user: 5136.70 / G SNP Project ID Y-106
CiteULike - Archaeogenetics
Flickr: Images from Archaeogenetics



This thread: