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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] They're Heeeere! New Hg I SNPs
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:41:33 -0600
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I will take advantage of Wil's message to remind anyone in I2a1 M26+
ordering some tests from FTDNA, and who deviate from 12-12 at DYS385 ---
please do the Kittler test for the order of the DYS385a and DYS385b repeats.
This information will help a lot in sorting out the phylogeny of I2a1. It
is a very inexpensive measurement.

Don't order Kittler if you are 12-12 or 13-13 or 11-11 --- only if 12-13 or
11-12, etc.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Wil Husted" <>
To: <>; <>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] They're Heeeere! New Hg I SNPs

> Howdy All M26 folks,
> I spent a lot of money to find L158, L159 and L160. I'm an 80-year old
> cardiac with heart failure and want to find out as much as I can about how
> M26 peoples moved about after the last glacial maximum. The SNP tests cost
> $29 each or $87 for all three plus postage. Go to your personal page, then
> to the advanced tests, select L158, L159 and L160 and place your order.
> I'm
> not getting any younger, so get out there and test, test, test!
> Wil Husted
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
> To: <>; <>
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:32 AM
> Subject: [yDNAhgI] They're Heeeere! New Hg I SNPs
> Four ysnps were recently discovered from two walk the y donors from the
> I2a
> sector of the haplogroup I tree.
> They are now available for customer order at the usual price at FTDNA,
> advanced orders, I-P215 panel
> On the branch line of I2a1 (M26 with the strange 11 at YCAa) three snps,
> L158, L159, L160 were found. I urge a variety of folks from I2a1 to test
> for them to see if they divide I2a1 and shed light on how it moved north
> from Iberia after the LGM
> On the branch line of I2a2 a single snp, L161 was found by a donor from
> I2a2-Isles-D clade. We still wait for walk the y results for a donor from
> I2a2a - Disles clade. But if you are adventursome and in I2a2 you might
> speed our learning process and order this snp for the price of a giant, 4
> toppings pizza. Does this snp split the 8 clades of I2a2-Isles? Is it
> just
> like M423 and simply split Isles from Dinaric? Or is it upstream a bit
> and
> formally split I2a-French from I2a-Western? Or is it private-like to our
> Irish donor from Isles-D?
> A pioneer group put together and financed a project to find new snps
> within
> the I2a sector of the tree. Four were found. It is now up to the broader
> population of interested folks in these clades to pin down the full
> phylogenetic meaning of these new snps.
> Ken
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