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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: [yDNAhgI] I2a1 Subhaplogroup L160-: Maybe DYS438 = 11?
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:40:53 -0600


>From Wil Husted's walk the y results three new snps were found within M26+ I2a1
They are L158, L159, L160

We have found someone who is positive for the first two (L158+,L159+), but negative for the last (L160-), defining a new subhaplogroup of I2a1


Today Bernie Cullen found this fellow's cousin or something in ancestry.com with more markers. This L160- fellow is 11 at DYS438.

Normally I2a1 is 10 at DYS438, but there is a cluster having 11 at DYS438.

This cluster has some other tendencies: 15 at DYS19, 31 at DYS452, and 14 at DYS617

If you are in I2a1 M26+, the so-called Sardinian clade/haplogroup, and you have DYS438 = 11, you are especially encouraged to order the brand new snp L160 to see if you are negative (ancestral) and belong to the new sub-haplogroup.



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