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From: Familienarchiv Fritsche + Saldarriaga<>
Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I1 in Spain
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:24:37 +0100
<< They were probably a significant segment of the population in these
territories, smaller than R1b but not much smaller.>>
Marek, yes, right, *relatively* considered each of these major or minor
haplogroup portions probably more or less were a significant segment of
However I meant 'minority' in an statistically *absolute* sense,
considering the *entire* population - which is important to estimate any
potential genetic impact by hg I1 people.
And so it is - I1 was (and still is) an absolutely *minority* of an
entire population of Dames, Germans, Dutchmen and Frisians. And in this
sense only a certain minority of those medieval mercenaries could bear
hg I1, at all. And so, also considering their number and sojourn time,
their genetic impact on Iberian populations surely could have been
between rather little and none.
Also, nobody knows, if supposedly 'German' (all sorts of origins could
'German' mean in those medieval times) troops were of overwhelmingly
Saxon origin. I'm in doubt about this.
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Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] I1 in Spain (was: I1 AS9b Geographic Origins
From: Marek Skarbek Kozietulski <>
Date: Sonntag, 16. Januar 2011 01:19:08
> Yes, I agree to Juergen, that conquest on tribal level has left probably
> much more offspring, than any Viking expeditions or participation of
> mercenaries in the wars.
> But I would not call the I1 people among Frisians, Dutchmen,
> Danes and Germans (especially Saxons) a minority. They were probably a
> significant segment of the population in these territories, smaller than R1b
> but not much smaller.
> Marek Skarbek Kozietulski