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From: "Kenneth Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] C'mon M227+ I1b: get 68-111 markers
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 18:01:21 -0600
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Gary, I find no haplotype in the I1 project under your surname, nor in my
database. So how would I know you are M227+?

If you are M227+ confirmed, then my message especially includes you, as you
are the only one to respond so far.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Mudary1
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [yDNAhgI] C'mon M227+ I1b: get 68-111 markers

Hi Ken,

Does this include me?

Gary/Mudary

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Kenneth Nordtvedt
<> wrote:
> I notice that the small (Eastern Europe oriented?) haplogroup M227+ I1b
> has no members who have added the 68-111 markers.
>
> That’s a shame; M227+ are hard to spot based on the 67 markers. It seems
> a ragged, old haplogroup. Rootsi et al saw lots of it in Eastern Europe
> in their paper of 7 years ago.
>
> I have found the 68-111 markers very good at producing new identifier
> markers for clades in haplogroup I.
>
> I’d urge M227+ people to expand their haplotypes to 111 markers. Maybe we
> can more easily spot likely members of the haplogroup then?
>
> (The sad truth is: the number of expansions to 111 markers throughout
> haplogroup I has fallen to a trickle. Too bad! )
>
> Ken
>
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