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From: "Pam Smith" <>
Subject: Re: [YKS] occupation - Cloth dresser
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:41:10 +1000
References: <20020605200134.OJHN3995.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[]>

Dear Judy and Tom, My great-grandfather, a Scarborough man who went to
New Zealand in 1864 in a wooden sailing barque, was a barber at the Thames
(Coromandel Peninsular) for about 15 years after travelling the far north of
the North Island. After a 6 month trip home he opened a shop in Auckland,
where he called himself a hairdresser, so I reckon hair-drefser is just a
fancy name for barber. He used to shave people, supply perfumes, and
possibly dressed womens' hair as well. The Maoris at Thames used to ask for
"ikkipenny de stink" (sixpence-worth of perfume). He was definitely
heterosexual, a devout Wesleyan and lay-preacher, came from a family
connected with the sea, but was lame, something wrong with his hip and they
had to lift him onto his horse.
Regards, Pam SMITH, Brisbane, Australia.

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy and Tom Lundeen <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: [YKS] occupation - Cloth dresser

> You wrote (6/5/02 12:51 PM):
> >>we discovered that an ancestor was listed in a parish register as
> >a "Hair-drefser" (as it appeared in the "old" script). We assume that
> >this is "Hair-dresser," and know what it means today . . . but what did
> >it mean two hundred years ago? Certainly not the same as today?<
> >
> >It still meant dresser of hair as it does today. Ladies' Maids often
> >their mistresses' hair or a hairdresser was sent for by ladies going to
> >balls to dress their hair, which was usually long, in appropriate styles.
> Judy:
> What you state probably makes sense in most cases, but this was an adult
> male. The register entry (a baptism in 1798) reads, "Thomas, son of
> William Lupton of Otley, Hair-Drefser". The only thing that we could
> imagine was something perhaps to do with horse-hair seat covers for
> carriages?
> Actually, we're finding this somewhat amusing, considering some of the
> male hair-dressers we've encountered! <grin>
> Best regards,
> Judy and Tom Lundeen
> Palatine, Illinois, USA
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