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From: "William S. Dyer" <>
Subject: Re: [BOZEMAN] Quakers or Loyalists?
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:54:01 -0600
References: <NEBBKIIMKDMHBGEAPHJICEGLCBAA.RenaeBC@att.net> <002701c0963c$038f48e0$3e7a8118@se.mediaone.net>


I received a copy of a wonderful old piece of research from a CARTER
"cousin". She is in the second decade of her life, and she had an aunt
who went from TX to GA back in the 30-40's to visit relatives. She
inherited that aunt's papers. Anyway, in the notes, it said that
Etheldred (son of Samuel and Ann) witnessed the death of a Loyalist
spy--he must have been about 5 or so. Anyway, these human insights are
what makes genealogy so interesting. The notes also said that my
grgrgrgr grandfather CARTER (Zimry Carter BOZEMAN's grandfather) saw
Cornwallis surrender...of course, I believe when he did he was probably
watching his commmanding officer as Benjamin CARTER was a loyalist. I
am in DAR on several other lines, but I am extremely proud of my
Loyalist ancestors as well. Remember, this was a civil war. They were
all British citizens at the time before the Rev. No foreign power
invaded. The Patriots were actually rebels, rebelling against the
ruling factor. They were called Rebels by those who remained Loyal.
Hope that doesn't open up a can of worms!!!
Cynthia

Steve Frizzell wrote:
>
> Hello Renae,
>
> There is no question that at least some of the Bozeman family members were
> loyalists.
> =======================================
> John Bozeman in South Carolina was a loyalist and, if I remember correctly,
> was "murdered" for being a loyalist.
> =======================================
> Jesse Bozeman, son of James and Martha who lived near to Samuel in Bladen
> County fought for the colonies and then, later, as a loyalist. However, it
> looks like he may have been forced to join as a loyalist since he appears to
> have deserted two days after he joined.
>
> The State Records of North Carolina Vol. XVI
> Roster of the Continental Line from North Carolina 1783
> Pvt Ballards Co, 10th Reg, NC Continental Line. Enlisted 20 Jul 1778, for 9
> months, Omitd. Octo. '78
>
> Loyalists in the Southern Campaign of the Revolutionary War, by Murtie June
> Clark, published by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc, 1981, Baltimore
> Boseman, Jesse, page 373
> Muster, Lieut Colonel John Hamilton's Company, Royal North Carolina
> Regiment, 24 Oct 1781, 61-days pay, 25 Oct-24 Dec 1781
> Nr Rank Name Remarks
> 39 Private Boseman, Jesse deserted 26 Oct 1781
> =======================================
> According to DAR records, Samuel of Georgia fought on the side of the
> colonies:
>
> Samuel Bozeman: Reference: DAR Patriot Index, national Societyof
> theDaughters of the American Revolution Diamond Jubilee Admin. Washington:
> 1966 page 72.
> "As a private he served in the Militia during the Rev. War. Samuel Bozeman
> took part in the seige of Augusta, Ga on the side of the colonies. He was
> accompanied by two of his sons, Joseph and Jacob Bozeman." Additional
> supporting proof previously furnished to DAR by Nat. No. 525327.
> =======================================
> On the other hand, he did seem to be sympathetic to the loyalists as
> indicated by the petition that he and his sons signed in 1783-4 in Georgia
> which read in part:
>
> To his Honour'le Governour, and to the mem'rs of the Hono'be Council for
> the state of Georgia. The Petition of the free Citizens of Burke County
> in the state afore-said Humbly sheweth ... a petition to not have Tory
> lands sold or seized ... put a stop to the said sales till a future day, as
> we look upon such Proceedings premature and your Petitioners shall as in
> duty Bound pray
> =======================================
> Perhaps some of his kinfolks were loyalist.
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Renae Bowers-Carnahan" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:49 AM
> Subject: [BOZEMAN] Quakers or Loyalists?
>
> Ok folks, here is what I found.
>
> I went through the Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy looking for
> every name in the 3 emails related to this discussion.
> While I searched all 6 volumes, only Vol. 1 and Vol. 6 have parts of North
> Carolina in them. Vol. 1 has North and South Carolina with part of Georgia.
> Vol. 6 has Virginia and part of North Carolina. These are the names I
> found.
>
> Sutton
> Sarah, George, Nathaniel, and Rebecca were listed in Perquimans Co., North
> Carolina in the 1725-6 time frame. Others were William in 1809, Caleb in
> 1820, and Mary in 1889.
>
> David Mote (also spelled Moat)
> He was married with children in Union County, South Carolina in 1753 and the
> family slowly migrated south. They were in Wrightsboro, Georgia by 1774.
> There was a son David Mote, Jr. but no indication of his age except that he
> was listed separately on a membership roster for the Bush River Monthly
> Meeting (Newberry Co., South Carolina) sometime in the 1770's. This would
> imply he was an adult since spouses and children were not listed. So if
> this is the same David Mote, it was probably Junior.
>
> Sellers/Sellars
> Gertrude and Baxter were in South Carolina in the late 1800's.
>
> FYI. All 6 volumes are in a database on Ancestry.com, however, I strongly
> suggest you locate a copy of the books and view them before using the
> on-line database. The organization of the online version is confusing
> unless you have seen the book. In addition, Ancestry.com does not give any
> indication of what the abbreviations mean and most of them are unique to the
> Quaker Meeting Hall language.
>
> Regardless of that issue, here are a few other family names that may be of
> interest during another search.
> Holloway
> Hollingsworth
> Rowe/Roe
> Rice
> Meade
> Demsey/Dempsey (as a male first name with a variety of last names)
>
> I also noted that it was in the 1770's that the Georgia General Assembly set
> aside a 40,000-acre tract of land in Columbia County for the Quakers (now
> McDuffie Co., west of Augusta, GA). The Quakers founded a town by the name
> of Wrightsboro there. This town no longer exists. The Quakers abandoned it
> in the 1810's when they all moved to Ohio.
>
> Since this wasn't a very fruitful search, I turned my attention to the
> Loyalist option.
>
> Then the librarian directed me to several books on Loyalists in the
> Revolutionary War. I only had 1 hour left before the library closed, so I
> had to work fast. Lo and behold the very first book I checked listed John
> Bozeman in Major Patrick Cunningham's Little River Regiment of the
> Ninety-Six Brigade. This was in Volume 1 of "Loyalists in the Southern
> Campaign of the Revolutionary War," written by Murtie June Clark and
> published in 1981. I know this is not Samuel's line, so I'll leave it to
> another email to tell you what I learned about him.
>
> Ok, back to hunting for Samuel.
>
> The oath mentioned in the Bond for Departure was part of the state's first
> treason act in April 1777. According to "The Loyalist Experience in North
> Carolina (by Carole Watterson Troxler, 1976), "The law directed that the
> oath be offered to crown officials and merchants trading directly with
> Britain; they could take it or give bond to leave the state within 60 days.
> It could be administered to anyone, however, and it came to be used with the
> militia even before a law specified that it be offered to every adult male."
>
> Here is a copy of the "Oath of Allegiance" mentioned in the Bond of
> Departure.
>
> "I will bear faithful and true allegiance to the State of North Carolina,
> and will to the utmost of my Power, support and maintain, and defend the
> independent Government thereof, against George the third, king of Great
> Britain, and his successors, and the Attempts of any other Person, Prince,
> Power, State, or Potentate, who by secret Arts, treason, Conspiracies, or by
> open Force, shall attempt to subvert the same, and will in every Respect
> conduct myself a peaceful, orderly Subject; and that I will disclose and
> make known to the Governor, some Member of the Council of State, or some
> Justice of the Peace, all Treasons, Conspiracies, and Attempts, committed or
> intended against the State, which shall come to my Knowledge."
>
> The following excerpt from another book, "The Loyalists in North Carolina
> During the Revolution," (by Robert O. DeMond, 1940) is particularly
> interesting. "In the summer of 1777 it was estimated that two thirds of the
> people of Bladen County were Tories and were contemplating leaving the
> state. At this time an oath of allegiance to the state was required of
> every citizen, and those refusing to take it were required to leave the
> state within sixty days..
> On his visit to Wilmington the later part of July 1777, General Ashe thought
> that the Tories were a real menace. He found there several Scotch Tories and
> other disaffected persons from Cross Creek and Bladen County and learned
> that under the pretext of coming down for salt they intended seizing the
> powder magazine by surprise. To prevent this, he ordered out all the
> militia of the county, but secured only three hundred men. It seemed that
> the attempted march of the previous year might be repeated. Colonel
> Robertson of Bladen County was ordered to be in readiness to attack and
> harass the Tories should they leave Cross Creek.."
>
> The "attempted march of the previous year" refers to an incident known as
> the Battle of Moore's Creek. There is a National Park to commemorate the
> Battle. It is only a few miles from where Samuel Bozeman lived in Bladen
> County. I did not find a list of participants on this, but there may be
> more information available from the Park Service or other sources.
>
> Notice the timing of these two paragraphs, the summer of 1777. These
> passages seem to indicate that the adult males in Bladen County were asked
> to take the oath in the summer of 1777 when Colonel Robertson was raising
> the militia to prevent a takeover of the Wilmington powder magazine. Anyone
> who refused would have been given a Bond of Departure and their property
> seized.
>
> Shortly after the Act, which included the Oath of Allegiance, there was an
> Act allowing the state to confiscate property of anyone who did not
> physically present himself to the state and take the oath. Here is a brief
> excerpt and a link where you can see it on-line (yes, it is an awfully long
> link, but it worked when I tested it).
>
> "An act for confiscating the property of all such persons, as are inimical
> to the United States, and of such persons as shall not in a certain time
> therein mentioned, appear and submit to this state, whether they shall be
> received as citizens thereof, and of such persons as shall so appear, and
> shall not be admitted as citizens; and for other purposes therein mentioned
> ... A true copy from the original. J. Sitgreaves, Assist. C. H. C. December
> 28, 1777. [Newbern, 1778] [Negative photostat]. -- Piece 1 of 1,"
>
> Available at:
> http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=rbpe&fileName=rbpe21/rbpe211/211
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>
> So, at this point, it could go either way, but it seems more likely to me
> that Samuel was a Loyalist, at least in 1777. Remember that when
> Declaration of Independence was written in 1776, historians estimate that
> only 1/3 of the populace supported it. Regardless of how unfair they
> thought the Crown's practices were, most people believed they could work
> within the British system to make changes. As time went passed, more people
> changed to support the rebel cause. As I'm studying this, I have learned
> that many people switched sides several times during the war. Men may have
> served in BOTH the Continental and British armies. Later they would claim
> to have been forced to serve in one or the other. Perhaps it was true,
> perhaps not, but apparently possible.
>
> Where in Georgia did Samuel Bozeman go? If he went to Wrightsboro, then
> there is still hope for the Quaker connection. If they went toward
> Savannah, they were probably Loyalists, as this was a known British
> stronghold. Apparently it was common for Loyalists and other people who
> simply wanted to stay out of the war to go to Florida as well.
>
> It's too bad this particular Bond of Departure had the date torn away. If
> it were placed in one of these months or shortly thereafter, it would be
> more convincing evidence. If there are quite a few that are all similar in
> the same time frame, and from the same place, that might lead to one
> conclusion or another too. I did not have time to locate the book you
> mentioned as your source, Ron. If you get a chance to look at it again,
> perhaps this historical information will help lead us somewhere.
>
> Please don't shoot the messenger, but the circumstantial evidence appears
> pretty strong to me that Samuel was a Loyalist in 1777.
>
> Since I started this for you Ron, tell me what you want me to do next. Do
> you think it is worth the effort to pursue a potential Quaker connection or
> not. The original records are stored at Guilford College in Greensboro. I
> was given the impression it will take a little work to get permission to see
> them though.
>
> There are plenty more resources available on the Loyalists. I gather that
> quite a few books have been published on the subject beginning about 1980.
> I guess the bicentennial spurred some interest in researching and presenting
> the "whole truth" about the war, rather than the one-sided version we were
> all presented as children.
>
> I'll make another posting soon regarding John Bozeman and what I've learned
> surrounding his situation. I would appreciate any information about him
> that might help me locate additional records and identify him for certain.
>
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