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From: "Pamela J. Sears" <>
Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Frederick Jansen and Grietje JansandMartinvanBuren
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:23:39 -0500


Cynthia,, Douglas, et al,

Cynthia wrote:

> Doug,
>
> I'm having a real problem here, I guess I don't understand your
> lineage chart? Pieter Martenszen Van Buren and Arriantje Barentse did
> indeed have a son Marten bp. Albany Dec?1701. But according to
> Pearson'e Early Settlers of Albany, this Marten bp. 1701 mrd. Maria
> Van Den Bergh and the?Albany records show: 1719 July 14. With L.
> Marten Van Buuren and Maria Van den Bergh. From 1720 to 1737 this
> Marten and Maria bp. 7 children in the Albany RDC. NONE are named
> Abraham. This Marten's brother Tobias mrd. Anna Goes in Albany RDC
> 1721. I can find?no HANNA GOES in the Albany records.

I'll tackle your last question first. The Anna Goes who married Tobias
Van Buren was baptized at Albany on 13 February 1704:

Anna, of Dirk Goes and Elisabeth Wyngaard. Wit.: Jan Goes, Margarita Van
Schaak.

Anna at Kinderhook #1506; Bapt. Date: 13 Feb 1704; Father: Dirk Goes;
Mother: Elisabeth Wyngaard; Sponsors: Jan Goes, Margarita Van Schaak
Source: Records of the Albany Reformed Church [1683-1809]

Next. Jonathan Pearson simply got it wrong probably because he never
went beyond the Albany records, and therefore concluded, incorrectly,
that Martin Van Buren, the son of Peter Van Buren and Ariaantje Barents,
married Maria Vandenburgh. Furthermore, Martin, baptized in 1701, would
have been unusually young to have married at 18 years of age. Also note
the absence of a daughter named Ariaantje for this couple.

This is the Martin Van Buren who married (by license dated 14 July 1719)
to Maria Vandenburgh as his 2nd wife:

> Contributions To The Genealogies Of The First Settlers Of The Ancient
> County Of Albany, From 1630 TO 1800, by Professor Jonathan Pearson
> VAN BUREN, Marten Martense, and Judikje Barentse. He was buried near
> his own house, Oct. 23, 1740. Ch: bp.; Maritje, Jan. 1, 1701; Barent,
> Sept. 6, 1702; Marten Cornelise, July 15, 1705; Ida, June 13, 1708;
> Tobias, April 30, 1710; Jannetie, April 20, 1712; Petrus, June 13, 1714.

you added:

> Cynthis:?
> You said that you couldn't locate the Abraham van Buren. He was the
> son of Marten Pieterse van Buren and Dirckje van Aelstyne baptised at
> Albany on Feb.27.1737.
> Doug Buckelew
>
> Not exactly so Doug. As per Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of
> Albany, New York, 1683–1809 Excerpted from Year Books of the Holland
> Society of New York: 1737 Feb 27: Abraham, of Marten and Dirkje Van
> Buren. Wit.: Abraham Douw, Marytje Van Buren.
>
> The records show a baptism of an infant named Abraham to parents named
> Marten and Dirkje Van Buren. It does not say that that father is
> Marten *Pieters* Van Buren nor that Dirkje is Dirkje *Van Alstyne*. As
> I previously discussed with you, I really don't think this particular
> Marten is the son of Pieter Van Buren and Arriantje Barentse who also
> was named Marten and was baptised in the Albany RDC December 28, 1701.
> Regards,
> Cynthia


However, a study of the names of the children of Martin Van Buren and
Dirkje Van Alstyne presents a different picture. And please note that
oftentimes the wife was recorded using her husbandnomic, and only one of
their children, Abraham, was baptized at Albany..

Martin Van Buren, baptized 28 December 1701 at Albany, the son of Peter
Van Buren and Ariaaentje Barents, married 7 November 1729 at Kinderhook
to Dirckje Van Alstyne, who was baptized at Albany on 30 April 1710, the
daughter of Abraham Van Alstyne & Maritje Van Deusen.

Marten #1325; Bapt. Date: 28 Dec 1701; Father: Pieter Van Buere; Mother:
Ariaantje Barents; Sponsors: Jonathan Jansse, Marrytje Van Buere
Source: Records of the Albany Reformed Church [1683-1809]

Dirkje #2075; Bapt. Date: 30 Apr 1710; Father: Abraham Aalstyn; Mother:
Maria Van Deuse; Sponsors: Johs Mingal, Jannetje Mingal
Source: Records of the Albany Reformed Church [1683-1809]

If Jim Brady has a marriage record, I would appreciate it if he could
please post it. I have 7 November 1729 at Kinderhook, but no source.

Martin Van Buren and Dirckje Van Alstyne had issue:

Mareytie #196; Bapt. Date: 18 Jan 1730; Father: Marten V. Buyren;
Mother: Dirckie V. Buyren; Sponsors: Jan V. Aalsteyn; Mareya V. Aalsteyn
Source: Baptism Record of Kinderhook Reformed Church [1718-1899]

Pieter #271; Bapt. Date: 24 Oct 1731; Father: Marten V. Buyren; Mother:
Dirckje V. Buyren; Sponsors: Barend Van Buyren, Mareytje Van Buyren
Source: Baptism Record of Kinderhook Reformed Church [1718-1899]

Pieter #334; Bapt. Date: 22 Jul 1733; Father: Marten Van Buyren; Mother:
Dirckje Van Buyren; Sponsors: Barend Van Buyren, Mareytie Van Buyren
Source: Baptism Record of Kinderhook Reformed Church [1718-1899]

[PJS Note: The sponsors at the above 2 baptismal records are Barent Van
Buren, older brother of this Martin, and his lovely wife Maria Winne,
using her husbandnomic)

Mareytje #402; Bapt. Date: 06 Apr 1735; Father: Marten Van Beuren;
Mother: Dirckje Van Beuren; Sponsors: Jan Van Aalsteyn, Mareytje Van
Aalsteyn
Source: Baptism Record of Kinderhook Reformed Church [1718-1899]

Abraham, #4478; Bapt. Date: 27 Feb 1737; Father: Marten Van Buren;
Mother: Dirkje
Sponsors: Abraham Douw, Marytje Van Buren
Source: Records of the Albany Reformed Church [1683-1809]

Ariaantje #484; Bapt. Date: 04 Mar 1739; Father: Marten Van Buren;
Mother: Dirkje Van Buren; Sponsors: Jacobus Van Alen, Lena Van Alen
Source: Baptism Record of Kinderhook Reformed Church [1718-1899]

[NYG&BR 88:106] Baptisms at Coxsackie,, Greene, NY
Pieter #25; Bapt. Date: 31 May 1741; Parents: Marten Van Buren, Turkje
Van Aelstyn
Sponsors: Pieter Van Buren, Ariaentje Vosburg

Marytie; #529; Bapt. Date: 02 Oct 1743; Father: Marten Van Buuren;
Mother: Dirkje Van Aelsteyn; Sponsors: Teuwis Van Aalstein, Sara Lins
Source: Baptism Record of Kinderhook Reformed Church [1718-1899]

Cornelia #578; Bapt. Date: 16 Jul 1745; Father: Martin Van Buyren;
Mother: Dyrchie Van Buyren; Sponsors: Hieron Falckenburg, Marya Falckenburg
Source: Baptism Record of Kinderhook Reformed Church [1718-1899]

Marten #97; Bapt. Date: 16 Jan 1748; Father: Marten Van Buuren; Mother:
Dirkje Van Aalstyn; Sponsors: Mattheus Van Deuzen, Susannah Van Deuzen
Source: Baptism Record of Reformed Church, Claverack [1727-1899]


So, after all the false starts and children who died as infants, this
couple finally ended up with four children named after the paternal and
maternal grandparents: Marytje in 1735; Abraham in 1737; Ariaantje in
1739; and finally Peter in 1741.

Abraham Van Buren, baptized 27 February 1737, married Maria Goes who was
baptized 16 January 1748 at Claverack, the daughter of Johannes Goes and
Jannetje Van Schaick:

Maria #104; Bapt. Date: 16 Jan 1748; Father: Johannes Goes; Mother:
Jannetje Goes
Sponsors: Casparus Conyn, Eva Conyn
Source: Baptism Record of Reformed Church, Claverack [1727-1899]

Their son Martin (the President) was baptized 15 December 1782 at
Kinderhook:

Maarten #2451; Bapt. Date: 15 Dec 1782; Father: Abraham Van Buuren,
Mother: Maria Goes; Sponsors: Pieter Van Buuren, & wife Catharina Quakkenbos
Source: Baptism Record of Kinderhook Reformed Church [1718-1899]

The sponsors were his brother Peter (baptized 1741) and his wife
Catharina Quackenbush.

Martin Van Buren (the President) married 24 February 1807 (supposedly at
Haxton House in Catskill, Greene, NY) to Hannah Goes, who was baptized 8
March 1783 at Kinderhook, the daughter of Johannes Goes and Maria
Quackenbush:

Annatje #2488; Bapt. Date: 06 Apr 1783; Father: Johannes Goes; Mother:
Maria Quakkenbos; Sponsors: Abraham Van Buuren, & wife Maria Goes
Source: Baptism Record of Kinderhook Reformed Church [1718-1899]

I hope this helps clear things up.


Regards,
Pam Sears

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