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From: Douglas Richardson <>
Subject: Re: Juliane Fitz Maurice, wife of Thomas de Clare
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:54:38 -0800
Since my original post last week regarding the maternity of
Juliane Fitz Maurice, various people have contacted me and
requested additional information on the ancestry of her mother,
Maud de Prendergast. In the intervening time, I've researched
the matter and have developed a preliminary ahnentafel for
Juliane Fitz Maurice and her mother, Maud de Prendergast, a
shortened version of which is presented below. The ancestry of
Maud de Prendergast includes some of the top medieval families
of England, Ireland and France, including Quincy, Clare, Burgh,
Lacy, Beaumont, Braose, St. Valery and Vermandois. If anyone
has any corrections or additions to the information below,
please let me know. The list of colonial immigrants who
descend from Juliane Fitz Maurice is repeated following the
ahnentafel.
Best always, Douglas Richardson
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AHNENTAFEL OF JULIANE FITZ MAURICE (concentrating on her
maternal ancestry):
1. JULIANE FITZ MAURICE, married Thomas de Clare, Knt.
2. MAURICE FITZ MAURICE, Knt., of Connaught, and, in right of
his wife, of Corbyn and the cantred of Corran, co. Cork,
Tobernea, co. Limerick and Killegny, co. Wexford, Justiciar of
Ireland, was born about 1238, died 1286. He married (lst) Maud
de Prendergast (No. 3 below); (2nd) in or before 1276, Emmeline
Longespeee, daughter and co-heiress of Stephen Longespee,
Justiciar of Ireland.
3. MAUD DE PRENDERGAST, born about 1242 (aged ten in March
1252). She was married (lst) to David Fitz Maurice (who d.s.p.
before St. Patrick's Day, 1249); (2nd) Maurice de Rochford (who
died before May, 1258); and (3rd) Maurice Fitz Maurice, Knt.
(No. 2 above).
6. GERALD DE PRENDEGAST, of Beauvoir, Ballacha in Orrery, and
Corbyn, co. Cork, Tobernea, co. Limerick, and Crosspatrick and
Killegny, co. Wexford, was born say 1200. He married (lst)
Maud, daughter of Theobald Walter by his wife, Maud le Vavasour;
married (2nd) in or before 1240, _____ de Burgh (No. 7 below).
He died in 1251.
7. _____ DE BURGH.
12. PHILIP DE PRENDERGAST, of Schyrmal and Kynalo, co. Wexford
and, in right of his wife, of the Duffrey, co. Leinster, born
say 1170. He married Maud de Quincy (No. 13 below). He was
probably the builder of Enniscorthy Castle, co. Leinster. He
died in 1229.
13. MAUD DE QUINCY, born late in 1172 or early 1173.
14. RICHARD DE BURGH, lord of Connaught, Ireland, Justiciar of
Ireland, 1328-32, was born say 1200. He was married before 21
April 1225, to Jill de Lacy (No. 15 below). He died in Gascony
shortly before 17 Feb. 1242/3.
15. JILL DE LACY, living 1243.
24. MAURICE DE PRENDERGAST (of Flemish descent), of Rhos, co.
Pembroke. He landed in Ireland in 1169 but returned soon
afterwards to Wales. He returned to Ireland in 1170, after
Richard de Clare, Earl of Pembroke, granted him Fernegal, co.
Leinster. He was living in 1173. He may be the Maurice de
Prendergast who was prior of Kilmainham in 1200.
26. ROBERT DE QUINCY, of the Duffry, a district in Temple-
shanbo, co. Leinster, Constable of Leinster, born say 1145. He
was married at Ferns, co. Leinster in 1172 to Basile de Clare
(No. 27 below). He was killed later in 1172, on his return to
Kildare from Clanmalier.
27. BASILE DE CLARE, born say 1158. She married (lst) Robert
de Quincy (No. 26 above); (2nd) Raymond Fitz William (otherwise
de Carew), Constable of Leinster, who died about 1188; (3rd)
Geoffrey Fitz Robert (died 1210/11), Baron of Kells in Ossory,
seneschal of Leinster, founder of the priory of Kells. She was
living 1199/1201, and presumably died c. 1203.
28. WILLIAM DE BURGH, lord of Connaught, Ireland, born say
1170. He was brother of Hubert de Burgh, Earl of Kent. He
died in 1205/6.
30. WALTER DE LACY, lord of Meath, Ireland, and of Ludlow,
Weobley, and Ewyas, England, Sheriff of Herefordshire, Constable
of Hereford Castle, born before 1173. He married before 19 Nov.
1200 to Margaret (or Margery) de Braose (No. 31 below). He died
shortly before 24 Feb. 1241.
31. MARGARET (or MARGERY) DE BRAOSE. She was living 1245.
54. RICHARD DE CLARE (otherwise Strongbow), 2nd Earl of
Pembroke, was born about 1130. By an unknown wife or mistress,
he was father of Basile de Clare (No. 27 above). His only
known marriage took place in 1171 at Waterford, Ireland to Eve,
daughter and de facto heiress of Dermot Mac Murrough, King of
Leinster. He died at Dublin, Ireland probably on 20 April 1176,
and was buried there at Holy Trinity (Christ Church Cathedral).
55. Unknown wife or mistress
60. HUGH DE LACY, of Stanton-Lacy, Weobley, Ludlow, Ewyas, etc.,
in England, lord of Meath, Ireland, Justiciar of Ireland,
Governor of Dublin. He married (lst) Rohese de Monmouth (No. 61
below); (2nd) in 1181, Rose, daughter of Roderick O'Connor, King
of Connaught. He died 25 July 1186.
61. ROHESE DE MONMOUTH, died before 1181.
62. WILLIAM DE BRAOSE
63. MAUD DE ST. VALERY
108. GILBERT FITZ GILBERT (otherwise DE CLARE), lst Earl of
Pembroke, was born about 1100. He married Isabel (or Elizabeth)
de Beaumont (No. 109 below). He probably died 8 January 1147/8,
or possibly 1148/9, and was buried at Tintern Abbey.
109. ISABEL (or ELIZABETH) DE BEAUMONT.
218. ROBERT DE BEAUMONT, Count of Meulan, lst Earl of Leicester.
219. ISABEL (or ELIZABETH) DE VERMANDOIS
In article <>,
Douglas Richardson <> wrote:
>Since the new change in Juliane Fitz Maurice's maternity affects
>the ancestry of such a large number of people, I thought I would
>supply a list of the eighty colonial immigrants who descend from
>her. If multiple descents exist, they are so noted. One
>immigrant, Thomas Wingfield, has an astonishing eight descents
>from this woman.
>
>Colonial Immigrants who descend from Juliane Fitz Maurice, wife
>of Sir Thomas de Clare:
>
>l. Robert Abell (4 descents)
>2. William Asfordby (2 descents)
>3. Henry & Thomas Batte
>4. Anne Baynton (2 descents)
>5-6. Richard and William Bernard (4 descents)
>7. Essex Beville (3 descents)
>8. William Bladen
>9. George and Nehemiah Blakiston
>10. Joseph Bolles (3 descents)
>11. Elizabeth Bosville (5 descents)
>12. Elizabeth Boteler
>13-15. George, Giles & Robert Brent (4 descents)
>16. Thomas (or Sackford) Brewster (5 descents)
>17. Nathaniel Burrough
>18. Charles Calvert (4 descents)
>19. Edward Carleton (6 descents)
>20. Grace Chetwode (4 descents)
>21. Jeremy Clarke (2 descents)
>22. William Clopton
>23. St. Leger Codd (4 descents)
>24. Elizabeth Coytemore
>25. Francis Dade
>26. Humphrey Davie (4 descents)
>27. Edward Digges (4 descents)
>28. Gov. Thomas Dudley (3 descents)
>29. William Farrar
>30. John Fenwick (4 descents)
>31. Henry Fleete
>32. Muriel Gurdon (3 descents)
>33. John & Elizabeth Harleston (7 descents)
>34. Jane Haviland (4 descents)
>35. Warham Horsmanden (4 descents)
>36. Anne Humphrey (3 descents)
>37. Henry Isham
>38. Edmund Jennings
>39. Edmund Kempe (2 descents)
>40. Mary Launce (4 descents)
>41. Samuel Levis
>42. Thomas Ligon
>43-44. Henry & Jane Lowe
>45. Thomas Lunsford (4 descents)
>46. Agnes Mackworth (5 descents)
>47-48. Roger & Thomas Mallory
>49. Oliver Manwaring
>50. Elizabeth Marshall (2 descents)
>51. Anne Mauleverer (5 descents)
>52. John Nelson (5 descents)
>53-54. Philip & Thomas Nelson (5 descents)
>55. Ellen Newton (3 descents)
>56. Joshua Owen
>57. John Oxenbridge
>58. Richard Palgrave
>59. Herbert Pelham (3 descents)
>60. Robert Peyton (3 descents)
>61. William Poole (2 descents)
>62-63. Henry & William Randolph (2 descents)
>64. George Reade (4 descents)
>65. William Rodney (5 descents)
>66. Katherine St. Leger (3 descents)
>67. Richard Saltonstall (4 descents)
>68. William Skepper (4 descents)
>69-70. Diana & Grey Skipwith (2 descents)
>71. Maria Johanna Somerset (2 descents)
>72. John Stockman
>73. John Throckmorton
>74. Jemima Waldegrave
>75. John Washington
>76. Olive Welby (2 descents)
>77. John West (3 descents)
>78. Thomas Wingfield (8 descents)
>79. Hawte Wyatt (2 descents)
>80. Amy Wyllys
>
>For the specific descents from Juliane Fitz Maurice down to the
>individual immigrants, see the forthcoming book, Magna Carta
>Ancestry, which book should be available for purchase later this
>summer or early fall.
>
>Best always, Douglas Richardson
>
>Email address:
>
>
>In article <>,
>Douglas Richardson <>
wrote:
>>The recent postings regarding Margaret de Clare, wife of
>>Bartholomew de Badlesmere, have prompted me to post regarding
>>Margaret's parentage. As indicated by others, Margaret de
>>Clare's parents were Thomas de Clare, Knt. (died 1287), of
>>Thomond in Connaught, Bunratty castle, co. Clare, etc.,
Ireland,
>>and his wife, Juliane Fitz Maurice, which couple were married
>>before 18 Feb. 1275.
>>
>>Juliane Fitz Maurice has long been regarded to be a daughter of
>>Maurice Fitz Maurice, Knt., 4th baron of Offaly in Ireland,
>>Justiciar of Ireland, by his 2nd wife, Emmeline Longespee.
>>Juliane was the most certainly a daughter of Maurice Fitz
>>Maurice, Knt., but not by his wife, Emmeline Longespee.
>>English records (including her ipm) prove conclusively that
>>Emmeline Longespee died without issue. For information
>>regarding Emmeline and the history of her English lands, see
VCH
>>Berkshire, 4 (1924): 158-159 and VCH Wiltshire, 9 (1910): 176.
>>
>>As for Juliane Fitz Maurice's correct maternity, it appears she
>>was the daughter of her father's first wife, Maud de
>>Prendergast, born about 1242, widow of David Fitz Maurice (died
>>1249) and Maurice de Rochford (died 1258), and daughter and
>>coheiress of Gerald de Prendergast (died 1251), of Beauvoir (or
>>Carrigaline) and Ballacha in Orrery, co. Cork, Ireland
>>(References: Orpen, 1 (1911): 390-391; 3 (1920): 118, 198, 209-
>>210, 4 (1920):128-129 (chart which incorrectly shows Juliane
>>Fitz Maurice as daughter of Emmeline Longespee); T.W. Moody, et
>>al., eds., A New History of Ireland, 9 (1984): 167 (chart)].
>>
>>Interestingly, Orpen shows that Maud (de Prendergast) Fitz
>>Maurice's paternal grandmother was Maud, daughter of Robert de
>>Quincy (died 1172-3), constable of Ireland, by a daughter of
>>Richard de Clare ("Strongbow"), Earl of Pembroke. So, it
would
>>appear that Maud de Prendegast has some rather illustrious
>>ancestry in her background, descending from the English Quincy
>>and Clare families.
>>
>>For further particulars on Thomas de Clare and his wife,
Juliane
>>Fitz Maurice and their numerous American descendants, please
see
>>the forthcoming new book, Magna Carta Ancestry, by Dr. David
>>Faris and myself, which book should be available for purchase
>>through NEHGS in Boston sometime later this summer or early
>>fall.
>>
>>All for now. Best always, Douglas Richardson
>>
>>
>>
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