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From: Tim Powys-Lybbe <>
Subject: Re: Vitré ancestry (was CP - ES correction needed?)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:52:09 +0100
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In message of 20 Jun, (Rosie Bevan) wrote:

> Hi Tim
>
> EYC 6 p. 21 may give the best indication of Eleanor's parentage.
>
> "In Nov. 1177 Andrew de Vitre gave to William son of Fulk Paynel,
> with his sister in free marriage, that moiety of his land in Normandy
> that was jointly divided by Fulk Paynel and himself, which he had
> chosen in Andrew's manors of Ryes, Trungy, and Ducy [all in
> Calvados], with a yearly rent of 20 li. from his manor of Cooling
> [Suffolk]; among the witnesses being William Paynel, [archdeacon of
> Avranches], Fulk Paynel, and Fulk Paynel the younger". [Footnote :
> Cal. Docs. France, no. 1458.]
>
> Robert Vitre III was succeeded by Andrew by 1177 - hence the arrangement of
> the marriage of his sister, Eleanor.

Many thanks.

I agree that this fits in well but I have never seen any prior mention
of Andrew son of Robert (III) (DD says Robt died in 1173). Any sources
that apply here?

> As William Paynel's and Gilbert Tilliere's widow, she married William, earl
> of Salisbury after 1190.
>


Good news is that I've been offered a copy of EYC Vol 6: so any more of
1,2,3,7,8 and 10 would be much appreciated.

--
Tim Powys-Lybbe
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