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From: "Douglas Richardson" <>
Subject: C.P. Addition: Clarice de Auberville, wife of Sir Fulk Fitz Warin
Date: 9 Dec 2005 00:11:44 -0800


Dear Newsgroup ~

Various posts have been made in the past regarding the parentage of
Clarice de Auberville (living 1250), second wife of Sir Fulk Fitz Warin
(II) (living 1255), of Whittington, Shropshire. This couple is in the
ancestry of many newsgroup posters, by way of their numerous Tregoz,
Grandison, and la Warre descendants. I went through my copy of Paget's
Baronage of England tonight and found his account of the Auberville
family. Paget clearly identifies Clarice de Auberville as the daughter
and heiress of Robert de Auberville (died c. 1230), of Iden and Isham,
Sussex, by his wife, Clarice. Robert de Auberville is in turn
identified as a younger brother of Hugh de Auberville, grandfather of
Joan de Auberville, wife of Henry de Sandwich, Knt. (living 1248), and
Nicholas de Criol, Knt. (died 1272), about whom I posted earlier this
week.

Here is what Paget says about Robert de Auberville:

"Robert [de Auberville], with Hugh his brother, he witnessed a charter
of John de Eu to the Monks of Robertsbridge. (Mon. Ang. II.921a n 10).
Lord of Iden and Isham, Sussex, jure uxoris, of which he had livery,
21st July 1205 (Cl. 7 Joh. m 20). Fought in Ireland, 1210 (Rot. de
Prestito 12 John). He attended the king at the siege of Bytham Castle,
1221 (Cl. 5 Hen. 3. m 15d). Constable of Hastings Castle, 8th Aug.
1225 (Cl. 9 Hen. 3. m 9). Warden of the Sea ports from Portsmouth to
Sandwich, 17th March 1228 (Pat. 12 Hen. 3. m 5). He died before 18th
March 1230, when John de Gatesden was appointed Constable of Hastings
in his place (Pat. 14 Hen. 3. m 5). He married Clarice. They had
issue, Clarice de Auberville, daughter and heir, of Iden and Isham.
She married Fulk Fitz Warine (III) as his 2nd wife. They were both
living 1250 (Rot. Fin. 34 Hen. 3. m 2). They had issue, Mabel Fitz
Warin, daughter and heiress to her mother. She married as his 1st
wife, John Lord Tregoz, of Ewyas, etc." [Reference: Gerald Paget,
Baronage of England (1957), 11: 1-2].

Besides the above, I've located two other records pertaining to Robert
de Auberville and his wife, Clarice, in Report on the MSS of Lord de
L'isle & Dudley 1 (Hist. MSS Comm. 77) (1925), as copied below:

pg. 71
1219, June 23. - Fine between William, abbot of Robertsbridge, and
Robert de Aubervill and Clarice his wife [Sussex Fines ap. Sussex
Record Soc. II., pg. 40].

pg. 97
[c. 1240]. - Charter of Herbert de Burghersse granting the land in
Egelinton [Eglinton in Ewhurst, Sussex], which he held of the lady
Clarice, who was the wife of Robert de Auberville, to Gervase, son of
Andrew, who paid for the charter 22 marks. Witnesses: Robert de
Glotingeham, Alan of Robertsbridge, Walter de Burgersse, William de
Sokenersse and 8 others. Seal: oval, 1 inch; a gem, stork in its nest;
SIGILL. HERBERTI CL'ICI.

For evidence that Mabel Fitz Warin was heiress of her mother, Clarice
de Auberville, I find that Mabel and her husband, Sir John Tregoz, were
granted free warren of Iden and I[s]ham, Sussex 11 June 1271
[Reference: Moor, Knights of Edward I 5 (H.S.P. 84) (1932) (1932):
43]. As shown above, Paget indicates that these properties belonged to
Clarice de Auberville's father, Robert de Auberville (died c. 1230),
who held them in right of his wife, Clarice.

The above information is an addition to the Tregoz account in Complete
Peerage, 12 Pt. 2 (1959): 21, in which Sir John de Tregoz's first wife,
Mabel Fitz Warin, is identified only as the "daughter of Sir Fulk Fitz
Warin, of Whittington, Salop and Alveston, co. Gloucester," with no
reference being made to Mabel's mother, Clarice de Auberville.

For interest's sake, I've posted below the numerous New World
immigrants who descend from Clarice de Auberville, wife of Sir Fulk
Fitz Warin (II). For the connecting links between Clarice de
Auberville and the immigrants, please see Douglas Richardson,
Plantagenet Ancestry (2004); Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry
(2005), and Jim Weber's great website at the following weblink:

http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=jweber&id=I28763


Elizabeth Alsop, Samuel Argall, William Asfordby, Barbara Aubrey,
Charles Barham, Charles Barnes, Anne Baynton, Marmaduke Beckwith,
William Bladen, George & Nehemiah Blakiston, Thomas Booth, Mary
Bourchier, Elizabeth Bosvile, Stephen Bull, Elizabeth Butler, Charles
Calvert, Jeremy Clarke, St. Leger Codd, Thomas Culpeper, Francis Dade,
Humphrey Davie, Edward Digges, Thomas Dudley, William Farrer, Henry
Filmer, Henry Fleete, Elizabeth & John Harleston, Warham Horsmanden,
Anne Humphrey, Edmund Jennings, Mary Launce, Hannah, Samuel & Sarah
Levis, Anne Lovelace, Percival Lowell, Gabriel, Roger & Sarah Ludlow,
Thomas Lunsford, Agnes Mackworth, Anne, Elizabeth, & John Mansfield,
Anne Mauleverer, Richard More, Joseph & Mary Need, John Nelson, Philip
& Thomas Nelson, Thomas Owsley, John Oxenbridge, Herbert Pelham, Robert
Peyton, George Reade, William Rodney, Elizabeth Saint John, Katherine
Saint Leger, Richard Saltonstall, William Skepper, Diana & Grey
Skipwith, Mary Johanna Somerset, John Stockman, John Throckmorton,
Samuel & William Torrey, John West, Thomas Wingfield.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Website: www.royalancestry.net

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