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From: "Peter Stewart" <>
Subject: Re: Ducal kinsfolk: Arthur, Duke of Brittany's kinsman, Robert de Vitré
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 02:28:48 GMT
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"Douglas Richardson" <> wrote in message
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> Dear Peter ~
>
> Mr. Moriarty was a competent researcher who usually did a thorough job
> of research.

Indeed - how extraordinary then that you have not bothered to provide
yourself with a copy of his Plantagenet Ancestry notebooks, given your
"professional" interest in the subject. If you had consulted Moriarty you
might have saved yourself some trouble recently by finding, for instance,
Duchess Ida correctly identified as a daughter of Count Otto II of Chiny.

> If Mr. Moriarty stated that Alan de Dinan married a daughter of
> Stephen, Count of Brittany, he is almost certainly correct.

Not "almost certainly" at all - Moriarty too made mistakes. However, if you
believe him, apparently on rather slight acquaintance, to be so nearly
infallible, it is even more odd that you haven't made the effort to get hold
of a copy.

> As I noted in my last post, such a marriage would make Alan de Dinan's
> descendant, Robert de Vitr, related to Duke Arthur of Brittany within
> the 4th degree of kindred. This degree of kindred is typical of such
> kinships that were acknowledged before 1250.

Is it still 1250, the next day? As questioned - but of course unanswered -
not long ago this watershed in kinship recognition was supposed by you to
occur in 1225. Why the slippage of a quarter of a century?

> Below is a listing of the works of George Andrews Moriarty available at
> the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. As you can readily see,
> no copy of Moriarty's Notebooks are available here in Salt Lake City.
> I believe the original Notebooks are kept at NEGHS in Boston.

Um, the FHL is not conterminous with SLC. I'm sure there are several trained
and professional genealogists in the city who keep their own copies of
Moriarty. If it isn't too late already, you might try being collegial enough
with one of them to borrow the work.

Peter Stewart


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