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From: Gioiello Tognoni <>
Subject: [DNA] Romans in Liqian: a masterpiece of hypocrisy
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:23:04 +0200



Finally my curiosity has won, I have paid and read (‘Testing the hypothesis of an ancient Roman soldier origin of the Liqian people in northwest China: a Y-chromosome perspective’, J Hum genet (2007) 52: 584-591). The conclusions are already on Wikipaedia: “Overall, a Roman mercenary origin could not be accepted as true, according to paternal genetic variation, and the current Liqian population is more likely to be a subgroup of the Chinese majority Han”.
The Chinese geneticists have correctly tested STR and SNPs, but the results have been dissimulated in the ‘Principal component (PC) and multidimensional scaling (MDS) analysis’ (a few Roman soldiers can’t move China).
If they would have published the results of DYS19, DYS389I, DYS389II, DYS390, DYS391, DYS392, DYS393, DYS385a, DYS385b, DYS437, DYS438 and DYS439, a child would have understand too. But the masterpiece is in the SNPs tested, which couldn’t not being published. In the discriminant part to ascertain a possible western European Haplogroup (leaving Hgs E and K, that there are too), they have tested M45 with M17 for R1a1 (at Liqian only 0,011) and then an Hg. p* (xR1a1) in the extreme right of the tree, in the place of R1b1c [a ‘list der Vernunft’ of the scholars?], with a presence at Liqian of 0,08, the same of the Uygurs (0,082), who have a good dose of Tocharians. Have the Chinese tested M173, P25, M269? No, of course. They were searching the Bushmen, not the Romans.
Gioiello Tognoni del Badia, Ysearch KV7Y2, Mitomap CVQVB

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